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Old 10-18-2006, 01:17 PM
Imrahil Imrahil is offline
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Default JJ facing a raise and a push

This is from a 4/180. The original raiser is 26/20 and the pusher has just been moved to the table. The original raiser once raised to 2xBB and folded to my re-raise. This time he raises to 4xBB.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t6210)
UTG (t1090)
UTG+1 (t710)
MP1 (t5120)
MP2 (t3165)
CO (t1770)
Button (t4200)
Hero (t3320)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t1770</font>, <font color="#666666">Hero?</font>
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Old 10-18-2006, 01:47 PM
La Brujita La Brujita is offline
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Default Re: JJ facing a raise and a push

im not sure how the 4/180s play but i fold jj and move in with qq.
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing a raise and a push

you are in the squeeze. The re-raise may or may not have a real hand, but it is fairly certain that the original raiser has something.
Fold and get 'em later.
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Old 10-18-2006, 03:07 PM
durkahdurkah durkahdurkah is offline
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Default Re: JJ facing a raise and a push

In a 4/180 this is really close. Like really really close.

The best play in reality is to fold and puke when they show you an AK and an AQ.

However I'm not sure if I have the discipline in a 4/180 to do this. I'd venture to say that if pushing with JJ here is an error, it's not an error by all that much.

In real life, I probably push back with this hand in about half the scenarios I see, dependant on reads. This may be a leak.
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Old 10-18-2006, 03:12 PM
DDBeast DDBeast is offline
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Default Re: JJ facing a raise and a push

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you are in the squeeze. The re-raise may or may not have a real hand, but it is fairly certain that the original raiser has something.
Fold and get 'em later.

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Pretty much all of this is incorrect. This is not a squeeze, no one is cold-calling. It is fairly certain that the Pusher has a real hand, obviously, because he is re-raising. The original raiser raises 20%, few of which are real hands. I probably call this in a $4, and don't expect to get called by the original raiser very often.
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