Can I fold QQ with 9BBs? - Page 4

curtains · #31 10-16-2006, 03:23 AM

if cold caller isnt very good its a brainless call.

good2cu · #32 10-16-2006, 03:43 AM

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Good2CU's got it twisted. The cold caller isn't a winning stars regular, or at least Sharkscope shows him on a 250K downswing (-$20K overall) leading me to believe that his cold-calling range isn't that tight. I agree with everyone who said that bigjoe isn't pushing AA/KK and that the cold-caller has something like 88+,AJs+.

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Losing in 5k HU matches is far differnt then losing in full ring SNGs.

Rojosox · #33 10-16-2006, 03:47 AM

good fold. I lay that down as well. Nice play.

Jared

mackthefork · #34 10-16-2006, 04:23 AM

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According to those ranges, we're 36% to triple up here.

With this many players left, cEV should be close to $ev, right?

So that makes it close but still a call.

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With those ranges it's bad imo.

Mack

mackthefork · #35 10-16-2006, 05:03 AM

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AT the start of a ten person toruanment (which is not this extact situation, tripling up would be less valueable at this point)

Tripling up would give you: 25.5% of the prize pool.

Everyone else who was still in would have 10.64% of the prize pool.

People who busted would have no chips obv.

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You are only needing 38.24% chance of winning here, but I doubt you have it with QQ, unless cold caller is very bad indeed.

Mack

suzzer99 · #36 10-16-2006, 12:17 PM

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Ok first hand of a tourney.

t1500 chips = $1k
t0 chips = 0
t3000 chips = $1700

or something like that

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There have been some empirical studies and lengthy threads to suggest doubling up early = more like $2k in equity. Also doesn't ICM say the same thing? (I'm travelling and can't check right now.) My gut tells me it has to be closer to $2k than $1700. No idea about tripling up early, but it's not $3k obviously.

FlyWf · #37 10-16-2006, 12:19 PM

Is this thread from 2004?

suzzer99 · #38 10-16-2006, 12:31 PM

HesseJam in 2005, then we revisted it this year. I'd search for it but I'm not going to do all that work just to get berated and called retarded. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] I'm on the clock here and on an effed up keyboard. Someone else can put in the effort.