Online Gambling Discussion on NPR's "On Point"

[bobman0330]

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Shes against parental notification for abortions, because the girl should be capable of making the decision to discuss it or not, but shes against adults deciding what to do with their own money.

Wow.

I'd hit it too..with her mouth taped shut.

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Haha yah good point. Actually, I'd put up with some crazy talk to hit it myself...but that's just me Unsuccessful people will always have a hard time empathizing with those who are successful. If she were beating the game there would be no negative comments from her end. Its like that in just about every uber-profitable industry.

Indy

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Dude, look closer at the bottom of that picture. That's a pretty big lady.

[gumpzilla]

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They should have had a well-known poker pro, to talk about how poker is different than other forms of gambling, that it helps develop thinking skills and character traits that are very useful in society.

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This reminds me a lot of when I was younger, and Nintendo would put out helpful propaganda alerts telling you to advise your parents that Nintendo helped with your hand-eye coordination.

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Thanks for the link. It's always enlightening to read and engage other viewpoints. I'm glad to see that forum participants are frustrated with the hypocrisy of gambling laws. This hypocrisy has been inherent in the law forever (at least as far back as I can remember).

[Texibus]

I guess that goes hand and hand with the contradicition may through all of her ideas. She thinks girls should be able to be in control of their own decisions entirely and yet she's willing to blame her addiction to gambling on an entire industry.

I suppose this girl is going to sue Mcdonalds when she ballons 70 lbs in 4 years, but then ask to be in control of her on diet planning.

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they refuse to acknowledge that prohabition does not work.

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Then what is everyone so upset about?

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Not being able to fund themselves legally. Any more questions?

[Texibus]

Also, I agree with bobman, I think that picture is only showing the tip of the iceberg.

[permafrost]

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they refuse to acknowledge that prohabition does not work.

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Then what is everyone so upset about?

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How about this: if its against the law, then there is always the risk that we as players will be prosecuted or that the industry as a whole will be prosecuted, and consequently that is -$$$$$. How about that, for starters?

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So if it IS against the law, and you willfilly break that law, you would be upset with yourself that prosecution hurt you?

[ZPinhead]

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I guess that goes hand and hand with the contradicition may through all of her ideas. She thinks girls should be able to be in control of their own decisions entirely and yet she's willing to blame her addiction to gambling on an entire industry.

I suppose this girl is going to sue Mcdonalds when she ballons 70 lbs in 4 years, but then ask to be in control of her on diet planning.

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I suspect that if this chick would have had one of those miracle good runs, playing way over her head/bankroll and still winning, that we would be reading about her in the NVG forum touting her poker prowess (until she was busto...) I'd be willing to bet (heh) that she's probably not addicted to gambling as much as she's actually addicted to wanting money for nothing. "I'll just keep going all in, it works for those guys on TV..." She better pray that she never encounters an Amway rep!

[tinhat]

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I listened to this whole program. I came away with the thought that we ( the poker community) have a communication problem with the general public. If we are lumped in with the non-skill forms of gambling, we have no shot of accomplishing our objectives.

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I can appreciate the sentiment but the problem is that most ppl (IMO) just don't give a crap one way or the other and because of that it's going to take ages to inform ppl that there's much more skill involved in poker than other kinds of gambling. And even then the benefit(s) IMO are questionable given that poker is always going to be at the very bottom in terms of issues/importance.

The poker lobby (what there is of it) requires an NRA-style methodology ("NRA" for non-U.S. is "National Rifle Assoc." and are very powerful in this country representing gun owners). Whether you're for the NRA or against them, all can admit they are extremely effective. The reason is because they understand the fight is between two extremes. Agendas (pro-gun, anti-gun) aren't implemented by discussing issues with "the public" but by putting direct pressure on lawmakers.

It's the same thing with corporations - they don't do media blitzes to back up justification for whatever governmental benefit they're after - they work the levers of power because that's where results come from. They don't care about being "right" with the public, only "winning".

So unless/until the <cough> poker lobby gets its [censored] together (assuming it has some [censored] to get together), informing the public IMO is an exercise in futility. We need to win in legislatures like the NRA and corporations, not opinion polls/radio programs.

[CutCreator]

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they refuse to acknowledge that prohabition does not work.

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Then what is everyone so upset about?

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How about this: if its against the law, then there is always the risk that we as players will be prosecuted or that the industry as a whole will be prosecuted, and consequently that is -$$$$$. How about that, for starters?

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where has it been said on that show or in the bill that players will be prosecuted?