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#11
10-09-2006, 03:24 AM
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Re: Hit set, bet flop/turn/riv, and face all-in...
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Thanks for all the advice on this hand so far. Doesn't shoving river, or betting more on turn to allow river shove, result in a villain with an overpair being more likely to sense he is behind and give it up? Why is my thinking wrong here on not betting SO strongly as to allow villain a more easy fold... [/ QUOTE ] But what about this? 
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#12
10-09-2006, 12:26 PM
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Re: Hit set, bet flop/turn/riv, and face all-in...
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Doesn't shoving river, or betting more on turn to allow river shove, result in a villain with an overpair being more likely to sense he is behind and give it up? Why is my thinking wrong here on not betting SO strongly as to allow villain a more easy fold... [/ QUOTE ] 1. Bump once more on this...anyone care to explain this to me? 2. Also, did Pog0 just misread the river action...cause I don't get his criticism of my play. 3. For the last couple people who responded that villain held 67 for a double-gut, do we see that often enough here to check behind on river?
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#15
10-09-2006, 12:58 PM
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trying to learn something...
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Just shove river. [/ QUOTE ] Doesn't shoving river (or as suggested above, betting more on turn to make river less of an overbet) result in a villain with an overpair being more likely to sense he is behind and give it up? Why is shoving better than not betting SO strongly as to give villain a more easy fold...
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#17
10-09-2006, 01:16 PM
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Re: Hit set, bet flop/turn/riv, and face all-in...
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Hello, I'm an NL noob with a related question. Is it good to call an utg raise in a 6max game with a low pocket pair? [/ QUOTE ] Hey, I'm willing to keep this thread going till someone responds to my own newbie questions from a few posts back. Yes, this call is good. PPs are big implied odds hands at NL, and it's often correct to call a raise pf, or be the raiser, for the chance of hitting a set in a raised pot. You often have to fold when you miss (although you can often take the pot with a Cbet if you were the raiser), but you make up for those times by stacking guys when you hit a set. Hopefully I answered this okay, and someone will be kind enough to respond to my Qs from above. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#18
10-09-2006, 01:16 PM
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Re: Hit set, bet flop/turn/riv, and face all-in...
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Hello, I'm an NL noob with a related question. Is it good to call an utg raise in a 6max game with a low pocket pair? [/ QUOTE ] Depending on the game, the situation, your position, how many people have called. If you are the BB, with pocket twos and the UTG raised, and it was folded around to you, for the most part you want to fold. On the other hand, if the UTG raises and you get 2+ callers and you have 55, then it may be profitable to call. There are so many factors that determine whether or not your call is profitable.
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#19
10-09-2006, 01:34 PM
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Re: trying to learn something...
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[ QUOTE ] Just shove river. [/ QUOTE ] Doesn't shoving river (or as suggested above, betting more on turn to make river less of an overbet) result in a villain with an overpair being more likely to sense he is behind and give it up? Why is shoving better than not betting SO strongly as to give villain a more easy fold... [/ QUOTE ] A push has higher expected value here. If he's calling a vb here, he's calling a push roughly the same percentage. Say you think he'll call your $100 bet 50% of the time. Your EV is $50. To get a EV lower than $50 on a push, he would have to call the push less than 35% of the time ($50/$143).
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#20
10-09-2006, 01:36 PM
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Re: Hit set, bet flop/turn/riv, and face all-in...
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double gutted [/ QUOTE ] Whoops heheh. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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