Limit Omaha Hi - general advice wanted

[stripsqueez]

10/20 holdem/omaha is the biggest game my local casino spreads - limit omaha high in the sort of game you describe is a licence to print

play tight pre-flop and only draw to the best

any poker game has swings but limit omaha high isnt a swingy poker game

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

[Stylite]

Exactly as Stripsqueez said. Limit Omaha is very profitable vs. loose opponents.

Play tight preflop, playing hands that can develop into various nut draws. If an eight - ten out nut draw develops on the flop, call down against 2-3 opponents, raise for value against 4 or more opponents, consider folding if heads-up or the pot is too small. Raise hard for 10+ outs vs 3+ opponents. Be ready to fold if a better nut appears. Abandon most pairs if a set does not develop on the flop.

Playing top two pair is a bit more tricky on the flop. You can generally raise for value on a ragged board, but abandon ship vs. a three flush or obvious straight if you aren't getting odds to draw and fill up.

[Bill King]

O8 is quickly becoming my new best friend fo sho.


ppl are bad.. omfg short-handed O8 is gold.

[The Big Easy]

I have a lot of experience playing 15-30 and 25-50 Limit Omaha Hi at Harrahs in New Orleans. I think the advice of most of the above posters is dead-on.

Most games I have played in are very passive pre-flop, so you can play pretty much any hand with a suited ace b/c there will usually be 6 or 7 players seeing the flop for one bet. Fold hands like 9987, T987, or 8765 DS or not. In general, sets are losers at the river. If you flop the nut flush draw and the board pairs on the turn with 4 or more players still in, dump it. Someone has the nuts 90% of the time. Fast play top sets with a big flush draw or gut shot (you have the best hand + either the best draw or blockers to someone drawing to the nuts).

But most importantly, your win rate will be determined at the river. Learn to throw away your J-high flush that happened to hit while you were playing top set.

In closing I have one word of advice: VARIANCE. Expect huge swings.

[RoundTower]

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Top set may not be a big hand in this game, it may just be a draw.

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Even if you consider top set to be "just a draw" it is still a massive hand. If several players are putting bets in on the flop you have a huge equity edge with top set. Even with the nut flush draw you can bet and raise there for value if you are confident of being called in several spots.

[Phat Mack]

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Top set may not be a big hand in this game, it may just be a draw.

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Even if you consider top set to be "just a draw" it is still a massive hand. If several players are putting bets in on the flop you have a huge equity edge with top set. Even with the nut flush draw you can bet and raise there for value if you are confident of being called in several spots.

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Especially true if you are reading the table well, e.g. you have top set against three flush draws, or you have nut flush draw against top set, 2pr, 2pr. These can be very profitable situations if recognized and managed properly.

In some of these mix games I get to play against the same people for hours, and start reading them pretty well.

[Choparno]

This is gold.

Given what you've said, I've clearly been making mistakes in my starting hand selection. I have been folding a lot of suited ace hands because they included "danglers", or all 4 cards weren't connected. It appears this is too tight given how many players are seeing the flop in this game, and the value of nut flushes.

I have also been playing hands like the ones you advise against, e.g. 9987 and T987. Is the reason you don't play them simply because straight-making hands do not hit and hold up often enough?

One other question. How fast do you play when you flop a weak nut straight (with no other draws) in a multiway pot? E.g., you have 63 in the blinds on a 2-4-5 two-suited flop, or something similar. Is it better to see if the turn is a safe card before raising?

[Phat Mack]

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How fast do you play when you flop a weak nut straight (with no other draws) in a multiway pot? E.g., you have 63 in the blinds on a 2-4-5 two-suited flop, or something similar. Is it better to see if the turn is a safe card before raising?

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Actually, this is a stronger straight. Compare it's straight-dinkers (3s,6s,7s) to having 89 and a 7TJ board (9s, Qs, Ks, As). With your low straight you are drawing to no suit and no board pair. With it, and against opponents who favor high cards, I'd probably jam early. With the high straight, I'd take a card off and see what happend, but would fold to any pressure.

jmo