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Old 10-07-2006, 08:45 AM
Jonathan Jonathan is offline
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AZK,

Do you really think you would be making so much money if you put in the same amount of "hard work" into something else..lets say becoming a lawyer, a doctor or even a businessman.

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Set, you are obviously very young and inexperienced in
the ways of the world. Do you seriously believe that the
top 1% of poker players have a lifetime expected earnings
even remotely comparable to the bottom 20% of physicians?

Not even close!

I don't believe the sky is falling for online poker....things
will continue just as they have prior to the bill. But if
online poker should collapse, then it will be a blessing in disguise for
the younger generation of players, who make $200,000 and
delude themselves into thinking that they made alot of money.

Suerte,
Jonathan
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Old 10-07-2006, 10:08 AM
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Set, you are obviously very young and inexperienced in
the ways of the world. Do you seriously believe that the
top 1% of poker players have a lifetime expected earnings
even remotely comparable to the bottom 20% of physicians?


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You are missing the point. Read my post again.
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Old 10-07-2006, 11:42 AM
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VV i think it requires a fair amount of intelligence, a lot of inborn ability , and not a lot of effort fwiw.

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you're not being [censored] serious are you? If this was a joke, you got me. If it wasn't, wtf. Anyone can become a good poker player.
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Old 10-07-2006, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: Thoughts: Somewhat of a Response to Stacking_Kids

Hard work isn't what makes a job a job. I could work really hard at getting good at minesweeper, but I wouldn't expect people to respect me for it. The problem many people have is that our 'job' of playing internet poker isn't doing anything for anyone. Even relatively useless jobs like cosmetic plastic surgeon are providing a service someone wants, regardless of how stupid or useless that want might be. Playing poker contributes literally nothing to society or any member of it other than yourself.

People, especially those who don't much like their jobs, think of working as something unpleasant that you have to do as your contribution to society, and that in exchance, you get things that you want and need (ie money that you can use to buy whatever). Poker players are cheating the system by getting quite a bit of money without providing anything anyone wants or needs.

Obviously there are plenty of other worthless jobs out there, but poker is especially obvious about being frivolous. Whether or not you spent a lot of time and hard work developing this skill set or not, the fact remains that you could have spent that time and hard work doing something other than learning to play a game.
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Old 10-07-2006, 01:09 PM
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foucault, you seem confused as to the economics of jobs. A job pays what it pays becuase people value what you do/make/produce. Bill gates is filthy rich becuase society values what he makes very highly. The fatc that many people value playing pker on this internet allows us to make high profits becuase we are providing the service/game.
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Old 10-07-2006, 01:32 PM
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Alcohol, tobacco, illegal drugs, fossil fuels, and prostitution all provide products or services. Are you saying they're better than poker?

(Included fossil fuels because we have more than enough renewable technology, we just don't utilize it.)

Poker is a form of entertainment like any other, with the one exception that eventually it can actually pay you back if you apply yourself long enough.
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Old 10-07-2006, 01:44 PM
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its also interesting to point out how our unique set of skills allow us to make a killing much like pro athelets.

Basically, your highest paying job should be paying you only slightly more than your second highest paying job. Like a teahcer wouldnt make that much less if they did the second best thing that their skills allowed them. A-rod is payed so much becuase he has a unique set of skills which nobody else possesses. If he didnt have baseball, he would be forced to sell hotdogs at the staduim, which would be a huge pay discrepancy. This is becuase his unique set of skills is so highly values in society, that he can be paid such a crazy salary.

It turns out that being higher intelligent, competitive, multitaskers are very rare and unique abilities, that allow us to make a much higher salary than our next highest job. We shouldnt feel bad about this. We should feel lucky much in the way pro athelets feel lucky for their skills, but those athelets still worked extremely hard to get where their are.

We dont have to be deserving of this money, becuase in capitalist societies you are simply paid whatever people value your product/service at.
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Old 10-07-2006, 02:21 PM
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A-rod is paid so much because he has a unique set of regular season skills which nobody else possesses.

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FYP

lol floptoberments
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Old 10-07-2006, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: Thoughts: Somewhat of a Response to Stacking_Kids

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foucault, you seem confused as to the economics of jobs. A job pays what it pays becuase people value what you do/make/produce. Bill gates is filthy rich becuase society values what he makes very highly. The fatc that many people value playing pker on this internet allows us to make high profits becuase we are providing the service/game.

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Poker economics don't work anything like that. Party and stars make/made a lot of money because people value what they do. That's not why poker players make a lot of money.
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Old 10-07-2006, 03:16 PM
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as players we are part of the service being offered. Stars cant run games without us, therefore we are part of the product to other people.
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