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Old 10-05-2006, 08:00 PM
Falcon900EX Falcon900EX is offline
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Default Fold to a scare card?

Villian is 46/13/1.56 fater 46 hands. Other is unknown.
So what is my line here like i played?

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (12BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 14BB
Tx
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: Fold to a scare card?

I vote yes. Almost any hand that he would reasonably have in this spot is ahead of you now.
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Old 10-06-2006, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: Fold to a scare card?

I call down every time, nh.
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Old 10-06-2006, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: Fold to a scare card?

I'm not sure I would have the courage to fold the turn, but you're certainly beat here with 2 outs an overhelming portion of the time.
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Old 10-06-2006, 03:12 AM
Caddy_4_Life Caddy_4_Life is offline
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Default Re: Fold to a scare card?

I think folding to the turn raise is the correct thing to do.

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Old 10-06-2006, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: Fold to a scare card?

Lets get crazy:

check/call turn, bet/fold river.
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Old 10-06-2006, 04:16 AM
Splossy Splossy is offline
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Default Re: Fold to a scare card?

Reads aside, seems to me you are beaten by the turn. OK you're scared he has a 10 but if he hasn't then he's scared you have it. Yet he still raises. So he surely either has it or a better pair than you.
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Old 10-06-2006, 04:35 AM
Big Poppa Smurf Big Poppa Smurf is offline
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Default Re: Fold to a scare card?

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Lets get crazy:

check/call turn, bet/fold river.

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i might just check/call the river too, esp if villain is the type to bluffraise a busted draw here or something.

it seems like if you're going to bet/fold the river you minds as well just bet/fold the turn. villains aggro/savvy enough to bluffraise the ten are also probably aggro/savvy enough to raise busted draws
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Old 10-06-2006, 04:35 PM
pokergrader pokergrader is offline
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Default Re: Fold to a scare card?

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Lets get crazy:

check/call turn, bet/fold river.

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i might just check/call the river too, esp if villain is the type to bluffraise a busted draw here or something.

it seems like if you're going to bet/fold the river you minds as well just bet/fold the turn. villains aggro/savvy enough to bluffraise the ten are also probably aggro/savvy enough to raise busted draws

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I think are you much more likely to be bluff-raised on the turn than the river, especially if you donk the river after check/calling the turn.

However, I have no problem with check/call, check/call. I thnk you might be missing value on the river though which might make it a bad line.
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Old 10-06-2006, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Fold to a scare card?

I C/C, C/C and as played I fold to the turn raise. I think...
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