Libertarian Party Press Release - Page 6

Raliegh · #51 10-04-2006, 05:31 PM

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The Libertarian philosophy is simple: live and let live. Each person should have the right to do as he pleases so long as he harms no one and doesn't limit others' freedom to do as they please; however, each person must also be responsible for the consequences of his own actions.

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It's not quite this simple, actually. Libertarians don't believe in most zoning/property laws, so live and let live, but don't mind the big chemical plant that just bought the lot next to you.

And buyer beware, there aren't any building codes, so the previous owner of your house didn't put any re-bar in the foundation. Hey, who's the government to tell him how to build his house! Too bad it's sinking now, guess that's your problem.

Oh, did your kid die from a bad batch of flu vaccine? Sorry about that, but the libertarians got rid of the FDA, too much regulation. The good news is, that now that your kid is dead, not as many people will buy drugs from that pharmaceutical company. The marketplace will fix it all!

I'm no fan of Republicans or Democrats, especially Republicans, but the Libertarians are far to extreme on way too many issues.

AlexM · #52 10-04-2006, 06:01 PM

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The Libertarian philosophy is simple: live and let live. Each person should have the right to do as he pleases so long as he harms no one and doesn't limit others' freedom to do as they please; however, each person must also be responsible for the consequences of his own actions.

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Actually, the very problem with the Libertarian Party is that they do NOT believe in live and let live. With the LP, it's "our way or the highway." No party that has a platform that spans multiple levels of government can claim "live and let live". If, for example, some local community wants to ban porn, and 95%+ of the residents support this, it's their business. When Libertarians say "no, you can't do that," they're very clearly not letting them live how they wish. Part of "live and let live" is that you can't force liberty on those who don't want it.

S_Cory · #53 10-04-2006, 06:26 PM

Guys, I appreciate the interest in our release and the Libertarian Party. Rather than searching around on the Internet trying to figure out what we stand for (BTW, first time I've seen the 20 things, thing), simply give us a call or shoot over a note. We're here during business hours and actually answer the phone, 1-800-Elect-Us.

For the record, you're not obligated to toe the party line on every issue with us. We have disagreements quite a bit amongst ourselves but in the end can agree on the essentials: smaller government, fewer taxes, more freedom.

Oh, and yes when we send out e-mails we typically have to solicit donations just like any other political party. Whether you like it or not, it takes money to win elections and thanks to FEC regulations, we have one arm tied behind our back.

Best,

Shane

bkholdem · #54 10-04-2006, 06:27 PM

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The Libertarian philosophy is simple: live and let live. Each person should have the right to do as he pleases so long as he harms no one and doesn't limit others' freedom to do as they please; however, each person must also be responsible for the consequences of his own actions.

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Actually, the very problem with the Libertarian Party is that they do NOT believe in live and let live. With the LP, it's "our way or the highway." No party that has a platform that spans multiple levels of government can claim "live and let live". If, for example, some local community wants to ban porn, and 95%+ of the residents support this, it's their business. When Libertarians say "no, you can't do that," they're very clearly not letting them live how they wish. Part of "live and let live" is that you can't force liberty on those who don't want it.

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Where did you get this information? It is my understanding that they want the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to be out of such issues, and do not want to prohibit localities from passing legislation as they see fit. So if you and everyone (or 95% as you say) in your town wants to prohibit porn store feel free to do so. It's been a while since I was actively involved and up on their politics but this is my recollection.

And if it is true, I don't think many porn shops that are intested in making money would want to set up shop in an area without customers...

...especially since they are for freedom of speech where the store would likely have dozens of protesters outside daily scaring away business....

see a solution without big daddy government.

JuntMonkey · #55 10-04-2006, 06:43 PM

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Oh, did your kid die from a bad batch of flu vaccine? Sorry about that, but the libertarians got rid of the FDA, too much regulation. The good news is, that now that your kid is dead, not as many people will buy drugs from that pharmaceutical company. The marketplace will fix it all!

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I don't know why in the world anybody would give their kid a flu vaccine.

AlexM · #56 10-04-2006, 06:54 PM

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The Libertarian philosophy is simple: live and let live. Each person should have the right to do as he pleases so long as he harms no one and doesn't limit others' freedom to do as they please; however, each person must also be responsible for the consequences of his own actions.

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Actually, the very problem with the Libertarian Party is that they do NOT believe in live and let live. With the LP, it's "our way or the highway." No party that has a platform that spans multiple levels of government can claim "live and let live". If, for example, some local community wants to ban porn, and 95%+ of the residents support this, it's their business. When Libertarians say "no, you can't do that," they're very clearly not letting them live how they wish. Part of "live and let live" is that you can't force liberty on those who don't want it.

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Where did you get this information?

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From just about every Libertarian I've talked to in my 14 years of being a libertarian and just about everything I've read from the Libertarian Party, including their platform?

mport1 · #57 10-04-2006, 06:55 PM

"My brother told me that the Libertarian party believes the next best thing to them being in power is to have split power in the government. In other words, we need the Republicans to control the House, and the Democrats control the Senate (or vise versa). I cannot confirm that the Libertarian party actually said this, but it makes sence. With split control, we'll have more gridlock. With more gridlock, hopefully stupid bills like this would have never been passed."

A gridlock is the next best option in our opinion, but we shouldn't have to pray for gridlock. We should vote for candidates who want to minimize the influence of government over our lives. Just remember, we created their rights and gave them their power - they are not our masters, they should be a "fearful servant" as George Washington said.

mport1 · #58 10-04-2006, 06:59 PM

And for those of you who do not like the LP's position on some issues, I would be happy to try to explain them. Almost all of them complete sense when you actually examine the evidence that support them and do not just judge based off of emotion or what you were taught as a child.

Busted_Flat · #59 10-04-2006, 07:01 PM

I'm a radical Libertarian. I believe in enforcing freedom at gunpoint.

mport1 · #60 10-04-2006, 07:05 PM

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Is this list of 20 of their website and/or "official" in any way. A cursory glance gives me 19 out of 20, it looks like.

Les

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That was not an official list, and by no means would you have to agree on all of those to be able to vote Libertarian. There is room for disagreement within the Libertarian Party (I consider myself a left leaning, moderate Libertarian for instance). Even among the most "pure" Libertarians, there are disagreements.