Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Other Topics > Politics
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

View Poll Results: Kc 8d 3c
bet 28 63.64%
dont bet 16 36.36%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #101  
Old 10-03-2006, 06:23 PM
CarlSpackler CarlSpackler is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,022
Default Re: I changed my political affiliation in the last 48 hours

Fact: EVEN IF EVERY DEMOCRATIC SENATOR VOTED AGAINST THE PORT SECURITY BILL WITH THE ANTI-WEB GAMBLING LEGISLATION ATTACHED, IT STILL WOULD HAVE PASSED BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS HAVE THE MAJORITY!!!

How hard is this for everyone to understand?

I personally called Lieberman's office last Friday (one of many senators I called). He sits on the port security committee. You know what his rep told me? That he didn't want anything attached to the port security bill, but there was literally nothing he or the democrats could do to prevent it. He told me to call Frist and Hassert, (whom I did call, lol), as they were the primary individuals getting the igaming legislation attached to the port security bill.

So lets say all the dems did vote against the bill. It still would have passed, and the republicans would have a ton of new ammunition with the elections coming up, as every democratic senator would face relentless attacks about how they voted against port security and are weak on terror. That's why they didn't vote against it.

This is all common sense, fellas. It's not very difficult to understand.

I KNOW IT'S EXTREMELY PAINFUL FOR ALL OF YOU HARDCORE REPUBLICANS TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH, THAT YOUR PARTY SCREWED OVER EVERY AMERICAN ONLINE PLAYER, BUT THAT'S REALITY.
YOU CAN CHOOSE TO ACCEPT THE REALITY THAT THE REPUBLICANS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS LEGISLATION, OR YOU CAN KEEP LYING TO YOURSELF, AND CONTINUE TO GO ABOUT LIVING IN AN ALTERED REALITY.

Finally, the republicans and democrats both suck. If you think either party is the nuts, you're nuts.
Reply With Quote
  #102  
Old 10-03-2006, 07:21 PM
bkholdem bkholdem is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,328
Default Re: I changed my political affiliation in the last 48 hours

[ QUOTE ]
Fact: EVEN IF EVERY DEMOCRATIC SENATOR VOTED AGAINST THE PORT SECURITY BILL WITH THE ANTI-WEB GAMBLING LEGISLATION ATTACHED, IT STILL WOULD HAVE PASSED BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS HAVE THE MAJORITY!!!

How hard is this for everyone to understand?



Finally, the republicans and democrats both suck. If you think either party is the nuts, you're nuts.

[/ QUOTE ]

Who is responsible for each of the democratic votes that were in favor of passing the internet gambling ban when it was voted on in the house as stand alone legislation?

Why is it a good thing to have democrats voting to ban online gambling?

Do republicans have so much power that they actually control the votes of democrats? (if this is the case I may actually change back from libertarian to republican because they got some major go go juice if they control democtratic legislators).

If 100 democtrats in the house line up to screw you over and vote to screw you over but because of the rule of law the 'screwing' doesn't happen until the senate approves the screwing... and then someone backdoors you some other way and happens to be a republican.. how does that somehow change the fact that a bunch of democtrats were lining up to screw you (alongside a bunch of republicans)?
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 10-03-2006, 08:43 PM
Ayn Rand Ayn  Rand is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 46
Default Re: I changed my political affiliation in the last 48 hours

[ QUOTE ]
The Democrats do indeed presently suck less than the GOP. If you still need convincing of that after the last 6 years, you are either mentally handicapped in some way, or are very young. I'm guessing young--I thought Ayn Rand was cool in high school when I read Atlas Shrugged, too.

[/ QUOTE ]

Love the personal attacks.

The only reason the Democrats presently suck less is because they aren't in power.
Reply With Quote
  #104  
Old 10-03-2006, 11:25 PM
Meech Meech is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Meechigan
Posts: 1,159
Default Re: I changed my political affiliation in the last 48 hours

[ QUOTE ]
Who is responsible for each of the democratic votes that were in favor of passing the internet gambling ban when it was voted on in the house as stand alone legislation?

[/ QUOTE ]

You mean versus the 200 aye, 17 nay votes from the republicans of course?
Reply With Quote
  #105  
Old 10-04-2006, 05:33 AM
bkholdem bkholdem is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,328
Default Re: I changed my political affiliation in the last 48 hours

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Who is responsible for each of the democratic votes that were in favor of passing the internet gambling ban when it was voted on in the house as stand alone legislation?

[/ QUOTE ]

You mean versus the 200 aye, 17 nay votes from the republicans of course?

[/ QUOTE ]

Do you not have the ability to recognize and state that each and every democrat who voted for the stand alone legislation to ban internent gambling is solely responsible for their own vote and should be recognzied as the enemy?

I expected someone would respond by chastising the 'republican's', thank you, you have proven my point.
Reply With Quote
  #106  
Old 10-04-2006, 06:29 AM
Grey Grey is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching My Anatomy...get it?!
Posts: 6,447
Default Re: I changed my political affiliation in the last 48 hours

[ QUOTE ]
I am rooting for the Democrats to win in November because of this. If they gain power they will open investigations into Bush becasue of Iraq and wiretapping and effectivly shut down the government. Government not functioning is a good thing.

[/ QUOTE ]Their investigations will also bring many documents into public view that we can't see now.

Sen. Coburn (R) recently predicted that if Democrats took control of the House, at least one Republican Senator (obviously Burns of Montana though he didn't say it) and 5 more Republican House members would go to prison
Reply With Quote
  #107  
Old 10-04-2006, 07:15 AM
gostros gostros is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 75
Default Re: I changed my political affiliation in the last 48 hours

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
1) Try to filibuster an "anti-terror" bill in an election year knowing both that they'd fail and that they'd be crucified by the Republicans for even trying.

2) Let the Republican majority have their way.

[/ QUOTE ]

WTF

The Internet Gambling Enforcement Act was supported by 60% of Democrats in the House back in July. Please God don't pretend that they were prepared to put up some filibuster but were thwarted. You want to filibuster with 76 votes? Even if they had them they would NEVER choose this issue to use it no matter what Bill it was attached to.

[/ QUOTE ]
Actually, you only need 40 votes to filibuster. See if you can figure out why.
Reply With Quote
  #108  
Old 10-04-2006, 10:22 AM
Meech Meech is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Meechigan
Posts: 1,159
Default Re: I changed my political affiliation in the last 48 hours

[ QUOTE ]
Do you not have the ability to recognize and state that each and every democrat who voted for the stand alone legislation to ban internent gambling is solely responsible for their own vote and should be recognzied as the enemy?


[/ QUOTE ]

Absolutely. From my state 100% of the R's voted yes, and 2 D's crossed over to the dark side. Everybody is responsible for their own vote.

I'm just sick of all the red team cheerleaders saying it's the democrats fault for not stopping it. Thats [censored].

It was a _mostly_ republican effort.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.