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Old 10-03-2006, 12:52 PM
Phresh Phresh is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 facing Matusow river C/R

Our hand is very underrepped. Matusow, by most accounts, sucks. He can make the river call with any Queen or a smaller PP. Plenty of value left, IMO.
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Old 10-03-2006, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 facing Matusow river C/R

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I fold, I think mike has been playing pretty well/non tilty when ive played him the last few weeks.

-Mike

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i thought his good stretches of poker were counted in minutes, and possibly hours - but not weeks
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Old 10-03-2006, 03:50 PM
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I play with him quite a bit I think this should be a fold most of the time

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i agree w/ that... but

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More relevant, maybe 15 min ago, Matusow open completes SB w/ QJs. Bets $100 on QQ2 and gets called. Turn K. He chk calls a psb. River 6, he crai and gets paid by a worse Q.



[/ QUOTE ] i call this time.
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Old 10-03-2006, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 facing Matusow river C/R

Durr I think you are giving Mike's 2nd level thinking too much credit here.

Bruiser: haha...while that may be true, I do think on a general level he has been playing a little more solid and less spewy (altho as my response to durr indicates, not world class pooker [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])

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Old 10-03-2006, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 facing Matusow river C/R

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Old 10-04-2006, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 facing Matusow river C/R

Looks like a fold to me.

From the given history, his POV is that you look moderately conservative and he should give you credit for at least some kind of hand. Knowing you've lost getting sucked out on and folded the flop to a psb against his unknown hand in the recent past, my interpretation of his thinking on the river is that you probably have a hand and are looking to beat him in a pot psychologically. He gives you credit for air or a pair based on the action to this point necissitating the CR for any additional value for a monster.

I think the big bet intentionally looks fishy and expect to see a ten here.
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Old 10-04-2006, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 facing Matusow river C/R

What about ck/ calling this river?
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Old 10-04-2006, 04:24 PM
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probably call
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Old 10-04-2006, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 facing Matusow river C/R

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Our hand is very underrepped. Matusow, by most accounts, sucks. He can make the river call with any Queen or a smaller PP. Plenty of value left, IMO.

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Never played him, I'm guessing? He doesn't suck. He's capable of bringing his F game, and has trouble snapping out of it. But, his normal game is among the strongest there is.

I agree that a river bet is in order, but I would've made it quite a bit smaller; 900 seems right to me.

Whitelime and I discussed this hand already, and he made a very good point about why he did what he did, IMO. I'll let him make it.
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Old 10-04-2006, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 facing Matusow river C/R

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What about ck/ calling this river?

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Worth a try but the hand is over after we check. If you're gonna fold to a raise then dont bet it. Since you bet, call.
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