Stud eight or better hand

[mmix85]

I'm new and not very good at this game yet, is this a standard fold on sixth. Also, am I supposed to do anything different on any of the other streets.
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PokerStars Game #6503445085: HORSE (7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit, $3/$6) -
2006/10/03 - 07:05:16 (ET)
Table 'Himalia' 8-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 2: joehardy ($92.25 in chips)
Seat 3: atmos1978 ($45.25 in chips)
Seat 5: gra-ting ($64.50 in chips)
Seat 6: smotu999 ($159.25 in chips)
Seat 8: thinair56 ($55 in chips)
joehardy: posts the ante $0.25
atmos1978: posts the ante $0.25
gra-ting: posts the ante $0.25
smotu999: posts the ante $0.25
thinair56: posts the ante $0.25
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to joehardy [6d]
Dealt to atmos1978 [5h]
Dealt to gra-ting [Ac]
Dealt to smotu999 [6s 3h 4c]
Dealt to thinair56 [7s]
smotu999: brings-in low $1
thinair56: calls $1
joehardy: folds
atmos1978: calls $1
gra-ting: calls $1
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to atmos1978 [5h] [As]
Dealt to gra-ting [Ac] [5c]
Dealt to smotu999 [6s 3h 4c] [Ah]
Dealt to thinair56 [7s] [2s]
atmos1978: bets $3
gra-ting: calls $3
smotu999: calls $3
thinair56: calls $3
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to atmos1978 [5h As] [3c]
Dealt to gra-ting [Ac 5c] [6c]
Dealt to smotu999 [6s 3h 4c Ah] [7d]
Dealt to thinair56 [7s 2s] [4s]
smotu999: checks
thinair56: bets $6
atmos1978: calls $6
gra-ting: calls $6
smotu999: calls $6
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to atmos1978 [5h As 3c] [2d]
Dealt to gra-ting [Ac 5c 6c] [2c]
Dealt to smotu999 [6s 3h 4c Ah 7d] [Jc]
Dealt to thinair56 [7s 2s 4s] [Ks]
smotu999: checks
thinair56: bets $6
atmos1978: calls $6
gra-ting: raises $6 to $12
smotu999: folds
thinair56: calls $6
atmos1978: calls $6
*** RIVER ***
gra-ting: bets $6
thinair56: calls $6
atmos1978: calls $6
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gra-ting: shows [8d Tc Ac 5c 6c 2c Js] (HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 8,6,5,2,A)
thinair56: shows [3s 4d 7s 2s 4s Ks Ts] (HI: a flush, King high)
atmos1978: shows [9c 3d 5h As 3c 2d 8c] (HI: a pair of Threes; LO: 8,5,3,2,A)
gra-ting collected $46.75 from pot
atmos1978 collected $46.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $95.25 | Rake $2
Seat 2: joehardy folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 3: atmos1978 showed [9c 3d 5h As 3c 2d 8c] and won ($46.50) with HI: a pair
of Threes; LO: 8,5,3,2,A
Seat 5: gra-ting showed [8d Tc Ac 5c 6c 2c Js] and won ($46.75) with HI: a
flush, Ace high; LO: 8,6,5,2,A
Seat 6: smotu999 folded on the 6th Street
Seat 8: thinair56 showed [3s 4d 7s 2s 4s Ks Ts] and lost with HI: a flush, King
high

[mmix85]

sorry for the bad format. Here is the same hand converted to better format..HORSE - 7 Card Stud High-Low ($3/$6), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.42 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street - (1.75 SB)

Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (2.88 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (6.88 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls

River - (12.88 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___calls
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___calls

Total pot: (15.88 BB)

[RobbyD]

I would raise on 4th st!

[Wolf44]

4th: I am very reluctant to raise 4th as two 5´s for an openender are gone and so our high chance is very small (also two opponents caught a card suited to their doorcard) and we are competing with three other low draws, I call here too.

5th: I think this is a fold, no chance for high and most likely behind already for low.

[Tha Stunna]

Fold 5th, there are three boards with better cards than you and you're playing for half. Your hand is almost as bad as a pair of kings here.

4th, I would take a crying card here, and feel bad about doing it. You could have the best low draw, but its just a naked draw, since aces (and fives) are dead.

Looking now at results, I'm surprised that players are this bad. Unless you knew that there were a couple of bad players in the game, it's hard to play it differently though. If they normally raise with good low draws, maybe you could have stayed in... but I would still not like it.

[rory]

I am no good at this game but:

Folding fifth seems pretty wrong, I don't see why you wouldn't think you have the best low here at this point.

Grating can't have you beat since he didn't raise 4th with the ace up and he caught good, which means his other two cards in the hole suck. With his board the only way you lose to him is if he has two babies in the hole, and he has at no point indicated that is what he has. For atmos to be beating you on fifth he has to have 46, 47 or 24 in the hole, but he didn't raise fifth with the wheel so it doesn't make any sense for him to have 24. 46 and 47, there are two fours dead, two sixes dead and two sevens dead increasing the probability even further that you have the best hand.

Also you close the action on fifth. Yeah you are going for 1/2 the pot and yeah you might be beat but nobody has done anything yet to make you think you should be beat and half of a big pot is still a big pot.

Unfortunately on 6th, gratings caught a deuce and now you are probably beat so you should fold. But I don't get the reasoning behind folding on fifth. Maybe a reverse implied odds thing but like by fifth the pot is really big and you probably have the best hand and close the action and all the cards they can catch to beat you if you are behind are dead.

[Andy B]

While I think raising fourth is defensible, I think that calling is better because you're up against several strong boards, and several of the cards you need are dead. Fifth is looking dangerous, but it's one bet and your call closes the action. Try to catch a Five next time. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] When it's two bets to you on sixth and more of your cards die, it's definitely checkout time, though.

If you made any mistakes on this hand, none of them are very big. If it turns out that you folded the best low hand (wouldn't surprise me), them's the breaks.