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Old 10-02-2006, 04:38 PM
linuxrocks linuxrocks is offline
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Default Re: Why is Partypoker.net Pulling the Plug? I don\'t see what has chang

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There are a bunch of reasons for Party to so quickly give a statement and not accept US players.

1. They are a publicly traded company, they have share holders they have to listen to.
2. They are the biggest company out there and will be immediately targeted if they persist.
3. They are based in UK which has very friendly extradition laws with US. They also have other businesses (like PartyCasino) which they still want to keep.
4. They probably think that they can get some profits by just having European, Asian customers.

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5. Directors may fancy visiting the US rather than a US jail.
6. Short term wisdom would be to comply for the time being with hopes to move back later. Difficult to do if all your operatives are labelled as criminals

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Can't extradite if it's not illegal in the UK

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Really ? How do you expect US and UK laws to be the same ? Some one commits a crime in US that's not illegal in UK and flies off to UK. Can you never extradite that person ?
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Old 10-02-2006, 04:43 PM
Copernicus Copernicus is offline
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Default Re: Why is Partypoker.net Pulling the Plug? I don\'t see what has chang

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There are a bunch of reasons for Party to so quickly give a statement and not accept US players.

1. They are a publicly traded company, they have share holders they have to listen to.
2. They are the biggest company out there and will be immediately targeted if they persist.
3. They are based in UK which has very friendly extradition laws with US. They also have other businesses (like PartyCasino) which they still want to keep.
4. They probably think that they can get some profits by just having European, Asian customers.

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Add to the list.
5. Directors may fancy visiting the US rather than a US jail.
6. Short term wisdom would be to comply for the time being with hopes to move back later. Difficult to do if all your operatives are labelled as criminals

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Can't extradite if it's not illegal in the UK

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Really ? How do you expect US and UK laws to be the same ? Some one commits a crime in US that's not illegal in UK and flies off to UK. Can you never extradite that person ?

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Probably not, no. Just as most extradition treaties carve out capital offenses if they dont have a death penalty, they wont acknowledge a US crime if isnt a crime there.
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Old 10-02-2006, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Why is Partypoker.net Pulling the Plug? I don\'t see what has chang

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There are a bunch of reasons for Party to so quickly give a statement and not accept US players.

1. They are a publicly traded company, they have share holders they have to listen to.
2. They are the biggest company out there and will be immediately targeted if they persist.
3. They are based in UK which has very friendly extradition laws with US. They also have other businesses (like PartyCasino) which they still want to keep.
4. They probably think that they can get some profits by just having European, Asian customers.

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Add to the list.
5. Directors may fancy visiting the US rather than a US jail.
6. Short term wisdom would be to comply for the time being with hopes to move back later. Difficult to do if all your operatives are labelled as criminals

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Can't extradite if it's not illegal in the UK

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Really ? How do you expect US and UK laws to be the same ? Some one commits a crime in US that's not illegal in UK and flies off to UK. Can you never extradite that person ?

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I think it has to do with what country you were in at the time you broke the law.

They don't bust Americans coming back from Amsterdam for smoking pot, or Americans for going to Indian reservations to gamble. In any case, don't worry about US laws when you are not in US jurisdiction.
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Old 10-02-2006, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Why is Partypoker.net Pulling the Plug? I don\'t see what has chang

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Really ? How do you expect US and UK laws to be the same ? Some one commits a crime in US that's not illegal in UK and flies off to UK. Can you never extradite that person ?

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Correct. But they're open game if they ever set foot on US soil ever again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition

Generally, an extradition treaty requires that a country seeking extradition be able to show that:

The relevant crime is sufficiently serious.
There exists a prima facie case against the individual sought.
The event in question qualifies as a crime in both countries.
The extradited person can reasonably expect a fair trial in the recipient country.
The likely penalty will be proportionate to the crime.
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Old 10-02-2006, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Why is Partypoker.net Pulling the Plug? I don\'t see what has chang

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There are a bunch of reasons for Party to so quickly give a statement and not accept US players.

1. They are a publicly traded company, they have share holders they have to listen to.
2. They are the biggest company out there and will be immediately targeted if they persist.
3. They are based in UK which has very friendly extradition laws with US. They also have other businesses (like PartyCasino) which they still want to keep.
4. They probably think that they can get some profits by just having European, Asian customers.

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Add to the list.
5. Directors may fancy visiting the US rather than a US jail.
6. Short term wisdom would be to comply for the time being with hopes to move back later. Difficult to do if all your operatives are labelled as criminals

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Can't extradite if it's not illegal in the UK

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Really ? How do you expect US and UK laws to be the same ? Some one commits a crime in US that's not illegal in UK and flies off to UK. Can you never extradite that person ?

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They aren't treaty bond to extradite that person.
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