QQ against two fishes and Ace on the flop OOP

[friend_]

two fishes:
63/0/0.62 acc. to 27 hands
57/0/0.19 acc. to 35 hands

Should I bet on this turn against two passive-loose opponents having only 1 to 2.5 to see the showdown?


Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB.

[Geng]

The numbers for the fish mean?

vp$ip %/ pfr %/ ag ?

You have 2 choices, raise or fold. Since you've been watching them, are they willing to call a pre-flop raise with any A?

[bennyhana]

I'd fire one more on the turn and make it my last $$ going in.

[bozlax]

Betting the ace-high flop and then checking the blank on the turn is begging for them to take a shot at you. Even passives. Either follow beni's advice and fire again on the turn as the last $ you put in, or check/fold the flop.

(I was going to say, if you've ever seen MP1 or MP2 fold a weak ace, check/call the flop, and check/raise the turn. Of course, this is .5/1, so I'm sure you never have. I'd better pull up my stockings, my FPS is showing.)

[friend_]

VPT/pfr/postflop agression

I whould bet on the turn if HU, but against two opponents, IMHO am behind most of the time, especially if one of them (passive!) bets on the turn against the agressor and the second opponent.
I think the pot is quite small to justify going to the river.

[unbeknownst]

I probably go at this a little bit harder by leading the turn and check-folding the river. If they're both fish then maybe you will get a check-behind on the river and you get to see a showdown for 1BB.

I don't give fish credit for top pair automatically. If one or both are TAGs I play it the same as you did because the pot is small.

[bozlax]

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I probably go at this a little bit harder by leading
the turn and check-folding the river.

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This line is terrible. If you bet the turn and don't get raised, you have to bet/fold the river.

[bennyhana]

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I probably go at this a little bit harder by leading
the turn and check-folding the river.

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This line is terrible. If you bet the turn and don't get raised, you have to bet/fold the river.

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yeah. don't be doing that.

[AlmightyJay]

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I probably go at this a little bit harder by leading
the turn and check-folding the river.

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This line is terrible. If you bet the turn and don't get raised, you have to bet/fold the river.

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Wait, but didn't you just a second ago say you should bet the turn and make it the last money you put in the pot?

[unbeknownst]

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This line is terrible.

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Really? So you must either

1) c/f the flop
2/ b/f both turn and river

I guess I just don't understand the bit about betting the turn and making it the last $ you put in the pot.