UB Bots Running Rampant

[piranha]

I apologize if this is in the wrong forum. The bots I'm encountering are all playing in middle limit short-handed games.

Let me preface what I'm about to say by telling you that I'm a very successful online pro that's been playing for close to five years now. I don't in any way believe online poker is rigged, I have hundreds of thousands of reasons to believe otherwise. I'm not a conspiracy theorist either.

That being said, I'm one hundred percent sure there are at least twenty and more likely thirty or forty bots playing in the UB 3-6 to 30-60 games right now. I've been playing in their middle limit games for years, primarily playing heads up. It was very rare to run into two players that played very similiar. At this point, I've run into thirty people that play nearly identical.

I've made a list of potential bots below. I'd like to stress the word potential. It is very possible that one or two of these people are not bots but just fall into the pfr and vpip ranges I've been looking at. All of these bots buy in for 250 at 5-10, 500 at 10-20, 1000 at 15-30, and 1500 at 30-60. None of them chat. They are usually sitting alone at tables but will join within a minute or two if you sit at an empty table. By the time the table is six-handed, there's generally 2 bots in the game. I have yet to notice any type of collusion between the bots.

In heads up games, the bots raise 80% on average from the button and re-raise 30% from the big blind (this # is high imo). In 3-Handed Games, they raise about 65% of the time from the button. There are many, many other similarities too but I don't have time to post them all. Keep in mind that UB is not a big site like Party Poker. If you were to datamine Party, you could come up with a list like this. FYI- None of my data is from dataming. All the hands I have in PT are hands I've played. On UB, it is unheard of to have this many people at the middle limits playing the same way. I know because I've played there every day for the last three years.

The bots are beatable, especially since they all play identical and don't adjust very well. However, I would guess the bots are making huge sums of money at thoses limits. I would rate them in the top 5% of the players I play against.

I would appreciate it, if anyone recognizes a name they know is not a bot to let me know. I'm in the process of bringing this to the attention of a lot of different UB people. To this point, I haven't received a response.

Name HU Hands PFR BB/SB 3-Handed Hds PFR But. Raise % VPIP
damonm 428 36/79 379 39 67 55
dletterman 72 24/74 121 37 69 58
dwiver 447 37/76 766 40 64 56
eetbacon 1167 30/80 1120 40 62 58
elvis45 340 23/76 328 38 61 58
fatka 977 27/78 750 38 60 55
furri 207 27/69 244 40 60 55
go2bed 302 29/75 235 38 62 58
grand95 524 26/81 480 40 63 55
hellbelly 906 29/77 436 36 62 54
Jadzia88 490 27/81 592 41 63 56
jaketrey 284 23/78 355 38 61 55
JctheRook 628 34/77 425 37 65 56
kallsttn 288 34/79 223 48 68 63
makequads 296 27/81 230 42 64 59
nikeslave 287 30/81 154 48 63 59
nofldn7 669 30/77 219 43 67 59
nutscrshr 428 36/78 379 40 67 55
OpenLimper 418 29/77 205 38 59 59
pnutjson 248 23/72 186 38 65 59
pokkademon 546 32/77 342 39 62 56
ricepuddin 234 32/79 170 43 71 59
SendItCOD 288 34/82 378 40 64 56
setundset 439 31/81 264 41 71 64
stime 601 26/74 730 41 65 56
tvaddict 244 31/80 135 44 62 61
waylon79 443 30/80 418 39 65 57
WYang 1212 28/77 1311 41 63 58
xsbaggage 459 27/80 411 40 65 56
yabibi 830 28/75 527 40 64 56
zealouse 370 28/78 252 40 56 53

[mayday4379]

phew, my bots didn't make the list.

[kahntrutahn]

You and Mr. Gatorade need to hook up


he posts @ 2+2, search for bots or something similar (for sure in the high stakes forum there is a post)

[piranha]

"You and Mr. Gatorade need to hook up"

Now that's a scary thought.

[danzasmack]

YO WHO CARES NO MORE ONLINE POKER DAWG

[piranha]

Care to place a wager on that?

[mayday4379]

also, check 'your ad here' on the micro tables. add him to your list.

[piranha]

So far, I'm getting nowhere with support which is to be expected. I have other contacts but they're all busy with the Aruba Tournament - the final table is today.

Does anyone have Leggy or PokerHo's email address?

[Victor]

piranha,

this bot problem has been uncovered and discussed on 2p2 before. i think it was back in march/april when a series of threads discussed it. i think there were fewer known bots then. check the heads up forum.

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