Poker Truism?

[Skuzzy]

Quick quiz question. How true is the following:


If I raise a TAG Villain (with no other reads) on a wet flop and he pushes for considerably more than a PSR, I expect to see a big draw most of the time.

[Dan Bitel]

<50%

[Ratamahatta]

Very few players push their draws at SSNL.

Edit: bad shortstacks do it often, but they push with bottom pair very often as well.

[Skuzzy]

I posted this because in the last few days I have seen this happen 20+ times and all but twice the TAG pusher was on a draw.

Unfortunately, I no longer have stats due to this sites policy of email requests only for HH and then they are unsupported by poker tracker so I cant check. Hence, this post, to see if this was anonomolous or a reflection of TAG play in general.
My feeling was that avergage TAGs know to push there draws (often incorrectly with too few outs), but don't make this play with their made hands, preferring to try and extract value.

This could also be a reflection of the games here - generally nitty.

[Paul Thomson]

are we assuming a raised preflop pot? stacks? blah blah blah.

[Skuzzy]

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are we assuming a raised preflop pot? stacks? blah blah blah.

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I was trying to avoid narrowing this down too much. Situations I was considering included limped and raised pots, standard (100BB) to deep stacks. The key factor was a TAG pushing on a board that if the player was LAG you might think he'd hit a pat hand. [censored]. Maybe I [censored] up the question trying to suggest a 'general principle' that was actually much more specific.

Regardless, assume nothing, go with your gut. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Vincent]

I would assume that a TAG usually raised PF, so <50%. Mostly I'd assume PP (be it overpairs or sets).