5/10 - Top pair, I raise fold the river.

Solid_p · #1 09-27-2006, 03:49 AM

BB is a 25/18/1.8 TAG. Good, or did I screw this one up badly? At the time, I felt he was pulling a wa/wb line so I thought "raise for value". Afterwards, I have a hard time putting him on a hand played like he did. I think I regret this fold...

edit: MP is a 55 vpip donkey who loves to lead into preflop raisers.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets, BB calls, MP folds.

River: (6.70 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 11.70 BB

RunDownHouse · #2 09-27-2006, 03:56 AM

UGh, 56 or 44 is about the only thing I can put him on. Regardless, there's no way he's expecting a fold from you.

Solid_p · #3 09-27-2006, 04:03 AM

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UGh, 56 or 44 is about the only thing I can put him on. Regardless, there's no way he's expecting a fold from you.

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Yeah, 56 is a possibility that I didn't see. And possibly a 77/88 that whiffed check raising the field on the turn.

So, how do you guys play it?

cwar · #4 09-27-2006, 04:05 AM

I feel peeling the flop was marginal given the draw heavy board and the possibility of BB check raising.

Solid_p · #5 09-27-2006, 04:12 AM

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I think this justifies a peel, even if it's marginal.

cwar · #6 09-27-2006, 04:21 AM

Its still hard for me to see this hand being worth about 5.5 outs and this kind of board often connects with a 55 vpip'er.

RunDownHouse · #7 09-27-2006, 04:45 AM

Yeah, I thought flop peel was pretty thin too, but I think its close enough that if the guy at the table at the time thought he should peel, then we'll just go with that.

ejay · #8 09-27-2006, 10:20 AM

close peel, but the rest of the hand is fine.

TheHip41 · #9 09-27-2006, 11:03 AM

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UGh, 56 or 44 is about the only thing I can put him on. Regardless, there's no way he's expecting a fold from you.

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Yeah, 56 is a possibility that I didn't see. And possibly a 77/88 that whiffed check raising the field on the turn.

So, how do you guys play it?

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I fold the flop.

Your hand sucks, you can get c/r, and the pot isn't that big.

I'd fold the flop.

Also, just call the river.

When a good player bets into you on this river, all you have is a crying call.

bobhalford · #10 09-27-2006, 11:08 AM

I agree about a flop fold here. You got jack for a hand and the board is all coordinated with 2 clubs. Even if you hit, it's easy for you to lose. As played, I'd just call the river. BB sees you have a King from the turn play, so I'd just call this bet.