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Old 09-26-2006, 02:46 PM
MrBlah MrBlah is offline
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Default Set on 3flush board against LAG

Villain is slightly loose but VERY aggressive. I've once seen him 3bet a flushdraw on the flop in a blind battle.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>

Easy raise or call down?
What if I raise and he 3bets?
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Old 09-26-2006, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: Set on 3flush board against LAG

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What if I raise and he 3bets?

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Call and river a boat and punish his ass.
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Old 09-26-2006, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: Set on 3flush board against LAG

I would raise, call if he 3 bet, then call river UI. Obviously cap if we fill up. You can't slow down that fast with monster hands vs aggressive opponents. Not to mention most players are check raising a flush here almost every time. Looks more to me like he is trying to protect a semi decent hand on this dangerous board.
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Old 09-26-2006, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: Set on 3flush board against LAG

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I would raise, call if he 3 bet, then call river UI. Obviously cap if we fill up. You can't slow down that fast with monster hands vs aggressive opponents. Not to mention most players are check raising a flush here almost every time. Looks more to me like he is trying to protect a semi decent hand on this dangerous board.

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I think a raise may knock out many hands I am ahead of right there and let made flushes punish me. HU facing a turn donk on this board I think I call and then call the river unless I fill up. Let him bet his two pair into me thinking "If he raises my turn bet I can safely fold."
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Old 09-26-2006, 06:55 PM
Tiltguru Tiltguru is offline
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Default Re: Set on 3flush board against LAG

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I would raise, call if he 3 bet, then call river UI. Obviously cap if we fill up. You can't slow down that fast with monster hands vs aggressive opponents. Not to mention most players are check raising a flush here almost every time. Looks more to me like he is trying to protect a semi decent hand on this dangerous board.

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I think a raise may knock out many hands I am ahead of right there and let made flushes punish me. HU facing a turn donk on this board I think I call and then call the river unless I fill up. Let him bet his two pair into me thinking "If he raises my turn bet I can safely fold."

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I don't see many players at this level that would fold 2 pair in this spot. I am raising specifically to punish those 2 pair hands along with all the raggedy 1 pair + FD hands he may be trying to push through. Don't forget that we have him down as very aggressive. I think we need to raise here.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Set on 3flush board against LAG

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I would raise, call if he 3 bet, then call river UI. Obviously cap if we fill up. You can't slow down that fast with monster hands vs aggressive opponents. Not to mention most players are check raising a flush here almost every time. Looks more to me like he is trying to protect a semi decent hand on this dangerous board.

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I think a raise may knock out many hands I am ahead of right there and let made flushes punish me. HU facing a turn donk on this board I think I call and then call the river unless I fill up. Let him bet his two pair into me thinking "If he raises my turn bet I can safely fold."

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Nonono, this is the easiest value raise in the world, they are not folding 2-pair here, or at any level without reads.

If he is bluffing completely you probably won't get any more money out of him on the river.

These hands at these levels are almost always crappy pairs that doesn't want you to get a free card or is trying some stupid semi-bluff. If you are 3-bet here it's an easy call, and call river blank.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: Set on 3flush board against LAG

I'm raising here and calling down if 3bet.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: Set on 3flush board against LAG

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Villain is slightly loose but VERY aggressive. I've once seen him 3bet a flushdraw on the flop in a blind battle.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>

Easy raise or call down?
What if I raise and he 3bets?

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Raise, call 3-bet, and hope to hit a boat on the river. He could easily have Ad5x or Ad7x.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: Set on 3flush board against LAG

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I would raise, call if he 3 bet, then call river UI. Obviously cap if we fill up. You can't slow down that fast with monster hands vs aggressive opponents. Not to mention most players are check raising a flush here almost every time. Looks more to me like he is trying to protect a semi decent hand on this dangerous board.

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I think a raise may knock out many hands I am ahead of right there and let made flushes punish me. HU facing a turn donk on this board I think I call and then call the river unless I fill up. Let him bet his two pair into me thinking "If he raises my turn bet I can safely fold."

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Villain isn't folding two pair to a turn raise. Ever.
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