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Old 09-26-2006, 05:06 AM
rsliu rsliu is offline
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Default How often do we cbet?

Lately I've been wondering if I cbet too often. I'm 22/12/1.3, and my first action on flop after a preflop raise breakdown is:

raise: 2.4
bet: 65
call: 6.6
check: 17.5
c/raise: .45
fold: 4.4

Should I be checking more marginal flops?

Also, should there be a significant difference between how often I cbet oop vs. in position? I feel position is not a strong consideration when I'm cbetting and I'm starting to wonder if it should be.
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Old 09-26-2006, 06:30 AM
nitramee nitramee is offline
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Default Re: How often do we cbet?

position on c-beting IS important.&5% is definetli not too much, many people bet alot more.All depends on the game you play.
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Old 09-26-2006, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: How often do we cbet?

Im at 67, HU its probably in the 90's.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:20 AM
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Default Re: How often do we cbet?

It really depends. If i get called/raised alot, then i obv. tighten up. If they fold often enough i open raise and cbet every hand from the BTN.
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Old 09-26-2006, 09:08 AM
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Default Re: How often do we cbet?

in position i cbet close to 100% vs. 1 opponent
IP vs. 2 I need at least 5 clean outs
OOP vs. 1 opp I need at least 5 clean outs to cbet
oop vs. 2 opps, I dont even go there. not without 9+ clean outs, or a made hand.
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Old 09-26-2006, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: How often do we cbet?

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OOP vs. 1 opp I need at least 5 clean outs to cbet


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This looks too tight for me. I cbet against 1 opponent 100% of time, even if OOP. Unless I have a read that opponent is calling station.

What do other people think about this?
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: How often do we cbet?

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OOP vs. 1 opp I need at least 5 clean outs to cbet


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This looks too tight for me. I cbet against 1 opponent 100% of time, even if OOP. Unless I have a read that opponent is calling station.

What do other people think about this?

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Against villains who are cbetting every hand they raise preflop, I do loads of raising, 3 betting, CRaising. Basically, cbetting should be like anything else in poker, balanced and unpredicatable, otherwise you become easily readable and exploitable. From villains point of view you 'cannot' have a hand 100% of the time, so he can happily check all his OOP hands on the flop to CR you, he can happily reraise any OOP flop bets knowing that most often he is facing air. If you adjust by 3 betting more he will simply expolit this to build pots and get paid on his better hands.

Checking the flop can be a great tool for pot control, to appear weak when strong, to exploit and aggro opponent etc.


...anyway, OP: I cbet when the board is dry but looks like a raiser may have hit it, ideally one broadway card on a rainbow flop. I stop cbetting when the board is wet like 2 flush connected or two connected broadway. I ma more inclined to cbet TAgs than LAgs.
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:04 AM
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Default Re: How often do we cbet?

I think you have to judge whether to cb on the texture of the board and the quality and number the opponents. Against three opponents I'll rarely cont bet without something, against two standard opponents I'll cb a flop without too many draws if both players are ok. Against one player I'll nearly always cb unless I'm oop to the sort of player who'll call down with an off suit 4 or 2 of the suit on a mono 678 brd.
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:04 AM
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Default Re: How often do we cbet?

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OOP vs. 1 opp I need at least 5 clean outs to cbet


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This looks too tight for me. I cbet against 1 opponent 100% of time, even if OOP. Unless I have a read that opponent is calling station.

What do other people think about this?

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HU I actually cbet more oop than in position. HU OOP I cbet almost 100%. In position I'll sometimes check behind.
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: How often do we cbet?

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in position i cbet close to 100% vs. 1 opponent
IP vs. 2 I need at least 5 clean outs
OOP vs. 1 opp I need at least 5 clean outs to cbet
oop vs. 2 opps, I dont even go there. not without 9+ clean outs, or a made hand.

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Play the board more.

Dumle
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