a genie offers you a deal

[Kaeser]

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HU you could never win. You could settle for MTT finishing 2nd, but you'd never win. AND...since you'd have to live with the fact of being 2nd best and knowing you could never win poker would obviouly become a boring (all be it very profitable) hobby. so you'd have to ask yourself and your ego if the money is worth it because you'd never have a bracelel and people would eventually know that you're full of sheeet.

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Well most people never win a bracelet so I can't imagine that it would kill your ego to know you'll never win one. I just don't understand why people would play tourneys at all with this power.

Seems to me that the most profit lies in the mid/high stakes deep stack NL games. Watching live at the bike I believe it was a 10/20 game with unrestricted buy-ins there were players with 20K+ stacks. In a game like that the blinds cease to be a real issue.

Playing limit this would be worthless, and I'd avoid short stack NL and tourneys as well.

[Gorby]

Wow, way to screw with my mind early in the morning. I would probably take it and play cash games only.

[ssquick]

this has ACTUALLY happened to me. If you get offered this DEAL DONT DO IT. unless you have a massive bankroll. i cant get any one to fold at the lower levels so cant build a bankroll, people call you with there bottom pair and it is always good.

[kazana]

I'd switch to RAZZ and/or Omaha Hi/Low and pwn big time.
I wouldn't even need the hole card part of the deal.

Edit: Doh, just read the disclaimer. How could I miss that 1st time round?
Nah, the deal is off. FU genie. You suck.

[Pepsquad]

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One more thing: If even once, you bluff a river against someone's unimproved A6o, and they decide to call you suspecting you are full of [censored], that's gonna make anyone paying attention more inclined to call you down, since at least online, your cards are automatically shown. And in live play, if you just open muck after someone's c/c, roughly the same effect will occur. Fold equity goes way down from a meta-game perspective.

If you are caught just ONCE with 32o on a high-card board, and somebody picks you off with A-high, you are really screwed. Even idiots are gonna go "wow, what a crazy bluffer. He raised PF with nothing, bet the flop, turn and river with nothing. I'm gonna have to show him down with even a pair."

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Why would you ever be bluffing the river against ace-high? BenA, I agree with alphatmw, you are thinking of scenario's where it would not be profitable and simply sticking with that. If the question started, "You have to play full-ring .50/$1 the rest of your life and..." then that would different. Open your mind - any game, any stakes, any number of opponents and you can still game select. This would be HUGELY profitable.

[AKQJ10]

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this has ACTUALLY happened to me. If you get offered this DEAL DONT DO IT.

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I think some PokerStars affiliates were offering this promotion to new players. I tend to always opt for the cash instead.

[BenA]

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Open your mind - any game, any stakes, any number of opponents and you can still game select.

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I never said that I disagreed with other games. But I see no problem with arguing my point about a specific game.

People keep saying "all you are giving me is examples of situations where it wouldn't be profitable." If you want to say that, show me some common situations that occur that make this profitable in limit. If bluffing A-high doesn't have value, then are we just waiting around for people with bottom pair, busted draws, and UI JT to win against?

[alphatmw]

this situation will never be profitable in limit. once again, this seems so blatantly obvious that i can't see anyone who's felt the need to discuss it except you.

[Fryguy]

All this does is reduce the game theoretical aspect of poker down to bare minimum.

You can play perfect poker, as defined by the fundamental theorem of poker. This is good, it makes you money, guaranteed.

However, if your opponent picks up on what is happening, he can easily play perfect poker as defined by the fundamental theorem of poker as well. When 2 perfect strategies collide, it is a matter of luck.

Because you have the worst kind of luck, you are guaranteed to lose if your opponent knows what is going on.

Edit: another aspect of this is cheating. With simple hand signals you could signal a partner when they are best, since you know their cards and everyone elses at the table [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]