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AA with strong resistance on flop
No PT stats or reads, I had just sat down.
Comments on any and all streets are appreciated. Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls. Flop: (10.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls. Turn: (11.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks. River: (11.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds. Final Pot: 13.25 BB |
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Re: AA with strong resistance on flop
you are ahead of mp2 like all of the time. he can't be setting up a turn c/r unless he's really bad. ergo, bet for value.
maybe bb has a flush or an 8, but without a read, you can't assume that. ergo, bet for value. you also have 9 outs to the effective nuts! $$$ |
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Re: AA with strong resistance on flop
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you are ahead of mp2 like all of the time. he can't be setting up a turn c/r unless he's really bad. ergo, bet for value. [/ QUOTE ] 4-straight 3-flush board = maybe he just crapped himself and doesn't want to call a raise with his set. And BB is a concern. I'm ok with OP's line. |
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Re: AA with strong resistance on flop
[nit]
three straight, three flush board [/nit] Edit: Four straight is correct. Sorry. |
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Re: AA with strong resistance on flop
Any 8 makes a straight and it's entirely possible BB has something with an 8 in it.
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Re: AA with strong resistance on flop
I know I ususally don't do this, but I agree with Xhad on this one.
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Re: AA with strong resistance on flop
grunch
i bet the turn for 2 reasons. 1 try to pick up the pot and 2if i am c/r I at least know where i stand. |
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Re: AA with strong resistance on flop
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if i am c/r I at least know where i stand. [/ QUOTE ] This is a horrible reason to bet the turn. |
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Re: AA with strong resistance on flop
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[ QUOTE ] you are ahead of mp2 like all of the time. he can't be setting up a turn c/r unless he's really bad. ergo, bet for value. [/ QUOTE ] 4-straight 3-flush board = maybe he just crapped himself and doesn't want to call a raise with his set. And BB is a concern. I'm ok with OP's line. [/ QUOTE ] my first thought was that KK/QQ was at least as likely as JJ/TT (and in fact there are more combos of the former than of the latter). but i guess we have to discount KK/QQ somewhat since mp2 didn't cap preflop. it's true that bb is "a concern", but it's hard to put him on anything. he did donk the flop, which reduces his holdings that contain an 8 (J8 or something maybe?). if i were worried about a c/r, i'd be much happier to check behind the turn. we don't mind giving a free card, especially since we don't mind taking one (those 9 outs to the effective nuts). plus, we usually insure that we get to showdown for 1 BB. without fear of a c/r, i think it's much closer, and i want to value bet against unknowns until they prove to me that they aren't simian nincompoops. betting the turn also often gives us the option of taking a free showdown, though i can't imagine why we would want one in this situation. |
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Re: AA with strong resistance on flop
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[ QUOTE ] if i am c/r I at least know where i stand. [/ QUOTE ] This is a horrible reason to bet the turn. [/ QUOTE ] agreed. also, we are never "picking up this pot" on the turn. but modern, you should really agree with xhad more; the bastard is almost always right. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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