My letter to Pokerstars

[poker-penguin]

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Gunslinger1988

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Clearly one thousand nine hundred and eighty seven other gunslingers are hanging out on 2+2.

[dlk9s]

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It seems to me that if two players are all-in on the flop in one of your tournaments, the turn card almost always gives the hand that is behind more outs. I also feel that the river card helps the hand that is behind way more often than the statistical probability.


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Umm...why would Stars rig a tournament hand so the underdog wins?

I just saw a similar stupid complaint when my brother was playing in a tourney at Paradise. My brother was shortish stack, pushed with 9-9, called by 6-6, and the better hand PF held up. Other guy bitched about it, saying Paradise sets it up so two pairs go up against each other. When prodded, he couldn't come up with a reason why Paradise would make this happen (especially in favor of the short stack) in a tournament.

I just don't get why people play online if they think it's rigged. Go do some gardening or read a book or something.

[dlk9s]

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Gunslinger1988

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Clearly one thousand nine hundred and eighty seven other gunslingers are hanging out on 2+2.

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Or an 18 year-old has made two WSOP final tables.

[Ali shmali]

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<font color="blue">Just look at your database of hands and look at the fraction of times somebody won when in on the turn with a given equity, etc. I'm sure tons of folks have done this and I have yet to hear of anyone finding anything other than what you would expect by chance.
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This won't work for the simple reason you can never know what hands their folding on the river.

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*all in on the turn

[Ali shmali]

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Gunslinger1988

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Clearly one thousand nine hundred and eighty seven other gunslingers are hanging out on 2+2.

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Or an 18 year-old has made two WSOP final tables.

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AHA HA HA AH HA HA HA HA HA HA, funny stuff

[AJackson]

You feel so strongly about this, why not post your name?

[primetime32]

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You feel so strongly about this, why not post your name?

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duh, if he reveals his name they will pull the doomswitch on him.

[mahogany17]

You guys need to lay off this bloke. It's not like it's his first post. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[JohnnyFX]

All of the idiots that keep posting these paranoid rants should be sentenced to 100 hours of dealing live tournaments, particularly home tourneys with fast blinds and lots of loose players.

When the 2-out river card comes out of their own hand, from a deck that they shuffled, maybe they will finally understand that 1 in 10 is not the same as "never happen in a million years."

One example (of dozens I could give) from a home tourney that I dealt last night:

Seat 6 raises preflop. SB reraises and Seat 6 calls. Flop comes 9-7-3, rainbow. SB bets and Seat 6 calls. Turn is another 3. SB bets and Seat 6 moves all-in. SB goes into the tank and finally calls with obvious great reluctance.

Seat 6 turns over pocket Js and SB joyfully throws down his pocket Ks. I say, "You thought he'd sucked out on you on the turn, didn't you? Nice ha...", and then I turned over a Jack on the river. I felt nearly as bad as the SB did.

It's the nature of poker, especially hold-em. It happens. I've seen KK vs. KK vs. AA in a live game. The night before last I limped from the SB with 43 spades and flopped 567 of spades. (No I wasn't dealing that one.) I think the odds of that are in the neighborhood of 100,000 to 1. Play enough poker and you'll see just about every possible outcome sooner or later. A friend of mine hit a runner-runner royal flush against a flopped set of Js in a live tourney about a month ago.

I won't even mention selective memory, since the concept is obviously incomprehensible to the unreasoning, superstitious nincompoops that keep making these "OP is rigged" posts.

Better yet, learn like the old-timers did. Spend one evening with a deck of cards and deal out 8 hands, then a flop, a turn and a river. Over and over again, for several hours. Maybe, just maybe, reality will finally start to sink in.

[Black winter day]

I posted this before: I don't know whether Stars is rigged or not, all i know is i played there for 3 months and lost 2000$ overall.
I moved to Tribeca and won 15000$ in the same period of time (about 3 months).
I probably improved my game, but not by that much....

So, i continue to play on Tribeca.
For whatever reason Stars didn't work out for me.