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Old 09-20-2006, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: ZOMG, Dikshit must be on to us!

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amount of $ El Diablo will earn without offers posted here = 0

amount of $ El Diablo will earn with offers posted here = >0

Therefore it is + EV even if the offers become watered down.

the above is the reality for most poker players here

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So when a major casino group gets hit hard and goes under, taking all zoofags cash with it then it's still +EV? You realize how close you came to that situation on more than one occasion in the past?

Again, why would ANY professional gambler want to water down casino offers/comps/bonuses? This applies to B&M and online.


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Yes it would still be + EV.

For example lets say that another casino comes out with a 2-1 BJ promo and it gets posted here. As a result many 2p2ers use said promo our friend El Diablo being one of them and as a result he plays BJ under + EV circumstances but due to the high volume the casino immediately goes into bankruptcy following the promo and additionally no casino ever offers a similar promo again.

Now lets say the promo never got posted on 2p2 and as a result El Diablo never plays BJ under +EV circumstances but the casino stays open and offers more such promos but because they are not posted here our friend El Diablo the poker player never plays them.

clearly scenerio #1 is the only +EV situation for him even though it may be -EV for people like yourself.
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Old 09-20-2006, 08:47 PM
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Old 09-20-2006, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: ZOMG, Dikshit must be on to us!

IZV,

Understood for people who actively seek out promos like the Party BJ on their own, threads like this are of course -EV if there is any possibility that they could be pulled or altered.
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Old 09-20-2006, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: ZOMG, Dikshit must be on to us!

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JM

amount of $ El Diablo will earn without offers posted here = 0

amount of $ El Diablo will earn with offers posted here = >0

Therefore it is + EV even if the offers become watered down.

the above is the reality for most poker players here

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So when a major casino group gets hit hard and goes under, taking all zoofags cash with it then it's still +EV? You realize how close you came to that situation on more than one occasion in the past?

Again, why would ANY professional gambler want to water down casino offers/comps/bonuses? This applies to B&M and online.

I've never understood why you zoofags think it's so smart to educate the masses on poker either. You really love Sklansky and Malmuth so much that besides blowing them anytime they want that you want to make them richer by selling more of their books and web advertising? While at the same time you educate the masses on being better poker players? Yeah, you guys are real bright.

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Can I play you HU for bankrolls? I will be in LV Oct 5-9, and will have ~20k on me.

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That's your bankroll? That's kinda sad to publicly admit.

Oct 6 is Playboy Clubs grand opening party so I'll be a little hung over the latter part of your trip. But we could play the 5th.

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No, that's what I will have on me. PM me your phone #, and we will get things set up. I'm staying at TI, we can play there. They'll spread whatever we want if there's an open table.
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Old 09-20-2006, 09:06 PM
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Old 09-20-2006, 09:54 PM
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LOL, TI? We'll play at Bellagio.

You can find me at ADVANTAGEGAMBLERS com


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Sigh...

OK, obviously, you're not interested. Cute punkout. Duly noted.
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: ZOMG, Dikshit must be on to us!

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amount of $ El Diablo will earn without offers posted here = 0

amount of $ El Diablo will earn with offers posted here = >0

Therefore it is + EV even if the offers become watered down.

the above is the reality for most poker players here

[/ QUOTE ]

So when a major casino group gets hit hard and goes under, taking all zoofags cash with it then it's still +EV? You realize how close you came to that situation on more than one occasion in the past?

Again, why would ANY professional gambler want to water down casino offers/comps/bonuses? This applies to B&M and online.

I've never understood why you zoofags think it's so smart to educate the masses on poker either. You really love Sklansky and Malmuth so much that besides blowing them anytime they want that you want to make them richer by selling more of their books and web advertising? While at the same time you educate the masses on being better poker players? Yeah, you guys are real bright.

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Can I play you HU for bankrolls? I will be in LV Oct 5-9, and will have ~20k on me.

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That's your bankroll? That's kinda sad to publicly admit.

Oct 6 is Playboy Clubs grand opening party so I'll be a little hung over the latter part of your trip. But we could play the 5th.

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No, that's what I will have on me. PM me your phone #, and we will get things set up. I'm staying at TI, we can play there. They'll spread whatever we want if there's an open table.

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LOL, TI? We'll play at Bellagio.

You can find me at ADVANTAGEGAMBLERS com

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stop plugging your g@y site, you suck and so does ur site.
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: ZOMG, Dikshit must be on to us!

I've seen JM challenge randoms to 1k online and win. I highly doubt he would turn you down.

I split my time 50/50 being a poker player and a bonus hunter (both casino and poker). I actually feel better about bonus hunting because when I win money from poker, I'm generally just taking it from some dumb American (I am American), I create nothing for the economy. When I take money in the form of bonuses, I am taking foreign money and bringing it into the country, paying taxes on the earnings and then investing/saving that money into our economy.

This site costs me money, there is no doubt, so did bonuswhores casino forum when it was still around/public. I would say this site has either directly or indirectly cost me in the neighborhood of 10k+ EV easily, bonuswhores when it was running full-steam probably cost me much much more.

A perfect recent example of 2+2's influence was playvegasfromhome, a bonus that existed at least for 4 months plus without one change to terms 10xB BJ ok. Within 3 days of first being posted on 2p2, the terms changed to something like 35xB, and within a week the bonus was completely taken away.

For those that talk about crypto's keeping their bonuses in spite of 2p2 postings, I argue that most of the bonus terms for crypto's are crippled since they been talked about over and over again, both here and back in BW days. The only exception to the rule is IC, and frankly I don't know how.

I'm under the feeling that casino bonuses can be at least slightly cyclical. It would upswing much faster/better though if bonuses weren't talked about on a public fashion.
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: ZOMG, Dikshit must be on to us!

pro casino and bonus whores,

Cry me a river you babies.
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: ZOMG, Dikshit must be on to us!

Diablo, no offense but I don't particularly care what people who don't do research think. I'd like it if people who do the research and find the deals to consider the finacial benefits of not posting.. If you can't find out things for yourself, or can't be bothered to, what you post here is of no interest to me.
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