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#321
09-20-2006, 12:25 PM
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Re: \"Official\" WSOP ME Broadcast on ESPN thread (9/19) (27 to 9)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Yea that last hand was definate collusion. Saved the dude with 1010 some money tho ..lol. [/ QUOTE ] no, I think he cost the TT guy the pot. If he doesn't say what he said, then the TT guy definitely calls. Now Gold only called because he reasoned that he was getting 2-1 and if he had two live cards he would be close to that. BUT... if if the TT guy calls I don't think that he would have felt he was getting close to 3-1 to call. I say he would have folded the hand in a minute. [/ QUOTE ] I think Gold calls if TT pushes also, for the same reasons. He is close to pot odds 3-way also. Putting Friedman on a tight range, and the 2nd pusher on a tighter range, Gold is getting a little less than the odds he needs. But as the big stack he needs to call. Gold's making such a hugh early position raise with junk seems pretty questionable, particularly when people are expecting him to make loose raises. 5,842,779 games 14.464 secs 403,953 games/sec Board: Dead: equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 20.0799 % 19.94% 00.14% { 87o } Hand 2: 31.8285 % 30.21% 01.63% { 77+, A9s+, KJs+, AJo+, KQo } Hand 3: 48.0916 % 46.53% 01.58% { TT+, AQs+, AKo } --- Text results appended to pokerstove.txt 4,423,789 games 6.313 secs 700,742 games/sec Board: Dead: equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 29.8240 % 29.56% 00.29% { 87o } Hand 2: 70.1761 % 69.94% 00.29% { 77+, A9s+, KJs+, AJo+, KQo } [/ QUOTE ] Betgo, if his range on both players includes unpaired cards and underpairs to his 87 then I agree. However, with two all-ins I think it's reasonable to assume that one of the players has 99-AA and his cards are not live. In that instance he would be closer to 5-1. Yes, he has a lot of chips and yes he is Jamie Gold, but I'm pretty sure I had seen similar situations early where he had junk and one player called an all-in and he stepped aside. Don't remember if he had this many chips in relation to the call amount. While PF can have anything, the other guy is almost certain to have JJ-AA/AK. So Gold only gets the odds with AK and even if the other guy has AK, PF can easily have an overpair; so it is so likely that one of them has an overpair. Do you call in that situation? I just don't see it being a good call. Even with all of those chips. 
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#322
09-20-2006, 12:56 PM
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Re: \"Official\" WSOP ME Broadcast on ESPN thread (9/19) (27 to 9)
"i thought his 6s call was standard for a swede and maybe standard overall."
Is this really the case? I was pretty shocked/amazed/impressed when he made that call and felt that the board didn't really discuss it enough...
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#323
09-20-2006, 01:01 PM
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He was a complete douche to Rizen when Rizen made a move at the wrong time. People don't need their face rubbed in it in situations like that. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah - you are absolutely right. Rizen handled it with class. Gold just acted like an idiot.
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#325
09-20-2006, 01:15 PM
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Re: \"Official\" WSOP ME Broadcast on ESPN thread (9/19) (27 to 9)
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"i thought his 6s call was standard for a swede and maybe standard overall." Is this really the case? I was pretty shocked/amazed/impressed when he made that call and felt that the board didn't really discuss it enough... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, that call does seem to be overlooked. It wasn't a huge bet, so the call wasn't insane. Still, that swede snapped him off hard with that low pair.
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#326
09-20-2006, 01:23 PM
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Re: \"Official\" WSOP ME Broadcast on ESPN thread (9/19) (27 to 9)
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"i thought his 6s call was standard for a swede and maybe standard overall." Is this really the case? I was pretty shocked/amazed/impressed when he made that call and felt that the board didn't really discuss it enough... [/ QUOTE ] Why was it shocking? He had a ton of chips so 600k wouldn't even put a dent in his stack. The 600k bet (1/2 of Force's remaining stack) smelled to high heaven.
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#327
09-20-2006, 01:23 PM
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Re: \"Official\" WSOP ME Broadcast on ESPN thread (9/19) (27 to 9)
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"i thought his 6s call was standard for a swede and maybe standard overall." Is this really the case? I was pretty shocked/amazed/impressed when he made that call and felt that the board didn't really discuss it enough... [/ QUOTE ] force starts the hand with 1.25 mil. 50k/100k blinds 4 limpers JT6r, checked around. 5 on turn. cunningham checks. friberg bets 200k with 63s. force calls with 98s. others fold. river A. friberg checks. force bets 600k. friberg: you bet 600? i call you. i want to see your hand. i like it. i think it was just really obvious to the swede what force was trying to do. if force really had an Ace, making top pair on the river, wouldn't he go all-in preflop with only 12.5xBB? if he had a pocket pair, like 88, all-in preflop? check on the flop? can't have anything. with so few chips isn't he gonna try to double up with any decent hand ASAP? if he had KQ for the OESD, why would he play it so slowly?
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#328
09-20-2006, 01:32 PM
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Re: \"Official\" WSOP ME Broadcast on ESPN thread (9/19) (27 to 9)
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[ QUOTE ] "i thought his 6s call was standard for a swede and maybe standard overall." Is this really the case? I was pretty shocked/amazed/impressed when he made that call and felt that the board didn't really discuss it enough... [/ QUOTE ] Why was it shocking? He had a ton of chips so 600k wouldn't even put a dent in his stack. The 600k bet (1/2 of Force's remaining stack) smelled to high heaven. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah man, that swede drained the life force out of leif.
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#329
09-20-2006, 01:35 PM
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Re: \"Official\" WSOP ME Broadcast on ESPN thread (9/19) (27 to 9)
The final table would have been so much more interesting if Friberg got a hold of some more chips. I guess that would have been the case if Gold would have gotten on the same chip stack level with Cunningham, Wasicka, Tech, hell, even Lee. I would have liked to see Nassif get a chance to play a bit too.
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#330
09-20-2006, 02:10 PM
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Re: \"Official\" WSOP ME Broadcast on ESPN thread (9/19) (27 to 9)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] "i thought his 6s call was standard for a swede and maybe standard overall." Is this really the case? I was pretty shocked/amazed/impressed when he made that call and felt that the board didn't really discuss it enough... [/ QUOTE ] Why was it shocking? He had a ton of chips so 600k wouldn't even put a dent in his stack. The 600k bet (1/2 of Force's remaining stack) smelled to high heaven. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah man, that swede drained the life force out of leif. [/ QUOTE ] force: gah-hod
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