$1/$2 PLO8 - Couple tough hands

lambchop_FT · #1 09-19-2006, 01:20 AM

Hand #1 =

Villian is 42/4/3 - Should i consider A. Just call the river C/R? B. 3-bet smaller and possibly fold to the push or C. Just stack with the 2nd nuts here?

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $246.03
UTG+1: $18.05
MP1: $70.40
Hero: $377.33
CO: $29.66
Button: $209.27
SB: $334.05
BB: $210.05

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($8, 4 players)
SB bets $5, BB folds, Hero calls, Button folds.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($18, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($42, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $29, SB raises to $88, Hero raises to $303.9, SB calls all-in $227.05, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $672.1

Hand # 2 =

Villian is 16/2/1 -

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $127.45
UTG+1: $219.43
MP1: $200
MP2: $354.60
MP3: $200.10
Hero: $200
Button: $96
SB: $127.30
BB: $198

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $9, 4 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($28, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $26.6, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($81.2, 2 players)
UTG bets $78.2, Hero ?????????

Hand # 3 =

No reads or stats on villian.

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $200
UTG+1: $182.35
MP1: $338.75
CO: $213.95
Button: $233.55
SB: $101.95
BB: $424.20

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $7, 3 folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
Hero bets $12, Button calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($41, 2 players)
Hero bets $39, Button raises to $156, Hero ???????

Hand #4 =

Am I just spewing here?

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $132.05
UTG+1: $219.20
MP1: $36.85
MP2: $86.75
Hero: $231.45
Button: $151.05
SB: $163.95
BB: $218.60

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12, 6 players)
SB bets $12, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($72, 5 players)
SB bets $72, UTG folds, MP1 calls all-in $22.85, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($238.85, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $140.55, Sidepot 1: $98.3)
SB is all-in $77.95, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $77.95 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $238.85

booger · #2 09-19-2006, 03:04 AM

hand 1 he has to be retarded to push without the straight flush, just call

hand 2 fold the flop if you're going to fold the turn. player dependent on your actions...does he bet a set like this in a draw heavy board??

hand 3 call or push and hope for diamond or trey

hand 4 looks fine since you improved on turn draw. not an easy one to get away from.

Fiasco · #3 09-19-2006, 03:13 AM

Damn thats long, ok, ill try and do a couple

Hand #1
You just call the river checkraise unless you have some sort of note on him saying hell go WAY too far without the nuts. Not only is SF the only hand that makes sense for him, but its also the only hand that wont fold when you threebet the river, so a call is proper.

Hand #2 You did this to yourself with a bad preflop call. This guy only raises 2%? Ill go ahead and put him on AA2x. Without running the numbers im guessing that leaves you with enough to keep going here. You have no fold equity so just call.

Hmm, appears youre just around the 30-33% mark here. So very borderline. Id still go for it. You might have thought about making a move on the flop, maybe a minraise to slow him down? I dont know.

Hand #3
Hmm, looks like youre probably at least 40% and its possible youre ahead. Not much point in just calling with that little left, so Id just put the rest in and hunker down for the quartering to come.

Hand #4 While these calls are understandable, I think that they are indeed bad. The flop call in particular looks like its just begging for a quartering.

MattS · #4 09-19-2006, 08:05 AM

I agree with the evaluation of Fiasco. I will add some additional comments:

Hand 1: I would bet the pot on the turn, 1/2-1 pot on the river and then only call his raise.

Hand 2: I would fold preflop. This 9 in your hand is a bad card. With a 4, 5, T, J, Q, K, A instead of the 9 I would call. Giving the nut peddlers action with mediocre hands is wasted money in my opinion.

Hand 3: I would go all-in on the turn.

Hand 4: After three callers I would also call on the flop hoping for a low spade card. The turn brings you the nut flush draw but you are most of the time against a made high hand w/ or w/o a low draw. Therefore your equity on the turn should be around 25% at best and a fold is probably the best decision.

zizazziza · #5 09-19-2006, 10:49 AM

1) if he has straight flush, whateva. but u i think u should just call the c/r. 3betting is only better hands will call u
2) folds and wonders why he called this flop
3) i call, maybe fold. all u have is nut low (which is prolly only 1/4 of the pot) + Fd. I dont like getting it AI here.
4)fiasco, i think its okay to make the call on the flop b/c 3 others calls so even if he is getting quartered then he doesnt have to worry about getting quartered b/c ull still end up on top. Turn play is fine, river play std. Against 78 (which it looks like sb has) you still have a lot of equity.

MeetUrTwin · #6 09-19-2006, 01:35 PM

Hand 1 who cares it's ~never going to happen again; however, pot it on the turn and even on the flop a pot-raise is a good play. Hand 2 is questionable, I think your decision is roughly neutral EV to call or fold, I'd tend to call and take a stab at outplaying my opponent on the end if I miss in the right way. Hand 3 is an easy shove. Hand 4 you played fine, def can't fold turn.

edit: just noticed shallow stacks on hand 2. it's a shame b/c he's obviously got a set and virtually any card that doesn't pair the board will either catch you up or give you an easy bluffing opportunity. still, I'd call.

Fiasco · #7 09-20-2006, 06:37 AM

ziz:
the reason I dont like the call on the flop in #4 is because of the negative implied odds of the quartering. If a low hits on the turn, youll probably be forced to call another pot sized bet, and there will be only one other caller, the other guy with the A2. And then youll have to pay off a huge bet on the river.

So if the stacks were shorter and you were calling all in, it would be fine, but as it is...