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Old 09-20-2006, 12:59 AM
.Alex. .Alex. is offline
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If you want these gifts, and that is what they are, then treat them as the precious commodities and do not talk about them in public.


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I think posting a link to the bonus is fine so everyone can know about it, but talking about specific EV implications could easily lead to someone reading it here, panicking, and cancelling the bonus. It's obvious that most top poker sites read this message board.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:09 AM
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talking about specific EV implications could easily lead to someone reading it here, panicking, and cancelling the bonus. It's obvious that most top poker sites read this message board.

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Party just puts up the promos on a whim with no calculations or prior planning involved, and then comes to BBV to figure out what the implications will be. An excellent theory. Or, you're [censored] retarded.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: Party Blackjack - kickass Promo

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talking about specific EV implications could easily lead to someone reading it here, panicking, and cancelling the bonus. It's obvious that most top poker sites read this message board.

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Party just puts up the promos on a whim with no calculations or prior planning involved, and then comes to BBV to figure out what the implications will be. An excellent theory. Or, you're [censored] retarded.

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Beat me to it. There is no way PP had no idea that this promo would attract attention. hell, the damn point of any promo is to attract attention.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:36 AM
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Party just puts up the promos on a whim with no calculations or prior planning involved, and then comes to BBV to figure out what the implications will be. An excellent theory. Or, you're [censored] retarded.

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They knew that it made it +EV, but they probably didn't realize that this information would spread to the point that dozens of kids were willing to bet the max getting over 2k in EV per hour. They might have assumed most of the people who were willing to try to get value out of this would do it on a much smaller scale, i.e $20 bets or so.

Now, I'm not saying this is definitely true, but I think it's a valid theory and something that should be taken into account in the future.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:44 AM
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they probably didn't realize that this information would spread to the point that dozens of kids were willing to bet the max getting over 2k in EV per hour

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They have years and years of data at their disposal that tells them exactly how people react to bonuses.

They know how many people bonus whored their various sign-up bonuses, how many bonus whored reload bonuses, how many have gone for account-specific bonuses, how many whored just one skin and how many whored them all, etc etc etc. They know about 2+2 and how it affects bonus takeup rates. They know about bonuswhores.com or whatever and how THAT affects takeup rates.

Hell, they even know how many people will take up a bonus if a recording of Mike Sexton calls them on the phone once an hour on the hour until they pick up, and tells them they have the greatest bonus evar!!! waiting in their email.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:50 AM
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[censored] i missed this one. I love what you guts did tho and hide this one in BBV, rather than let it loose in the uber obvious bonus forum. kudos
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:53 AM
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All of this data is not the same as this type of bonus, something that's never (or not in a while) been done, so it's possible that they were incorrect in their estimations.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: Party Blackjack - kickass Promo

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they probably didn't realize that this information would spread to the point that dozens of kids were willing to bet the max getting over 2k in EV per hour

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They have years and years of data at their disposal that tells them exactly how people react to bonuses.

They know how many people bonus whored their various sign-up bonuses, how many bonus whored reload bonuses, how many have gone for account-specific bonuses, how many whored just one skin and how many whored them all, etc etc etc. They know about 2+2 and how it affects bonus takeup rates. They know about bonuswhores.com or whatever and how THAT affects takeup rates.

Hell, they even know how many people will take up a bonus if a recording of Mike Sexton calls them on the phone once an hour on the hour until they pick up, and tells them they have the greatest bonus evar!!! waiting in their email.

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lol you think party is a "thinking player"
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Old 09-20-2006, 03:09 AM
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Thanks again for ruining a +EV opportunity 2+2 forums! Here's a good idea, in the future when you see poker bonuses, casino bonuses, or sportsbook bonuses that sound too good to be true DON'T POST ABOUT THEM.

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sentiments like this are stupid. party isn't setting up a promo like this with the intention of only a few people doing it. if that was the case it would be account specific. for whatever reason, they think it's a good idea and that they will make money off it in the long run. it wasn't exactly a secret, it was on their website. post away.

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Do people seriously think that Party read 2 + 2 and act on what they read? Or, that they read what we're writing about them and ignore it ALL except when it comes to blackjack promotions?
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Old 09-20-2006, 04:12 AM
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Thanks again for ruining a +EV opportunity 2+2 forums! Here's a good idea, in the future when you see poker bonuses, casino bonuses, or sportsbook bonuses that sound too good to be true DON'T POST ABOUT THEM.

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sentiments like this are stupid. party isn't setting up a promo like this with the intention of only a few people doing it. if that was the case it would be account specific. for whatever reason, they think it's a good idea and that they will make money off it in the long run. it wasn't exactly a secret, it was on their website. post away.

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Do people seriously think that Party read 2 + 2 and act on what they read? Or, that they read what we're writing about them and ignore it ALL except when it comes to blackjack promotions?

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Slow ones do.
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