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Table goes crazy. I\'ve got the draw to the nuts. Push?
Just sat down at this table for an orbit or so. Table is pretty loose, with a lot of LAGgy play, but I dont have many specfic reads yet on the players.
Anyway, this hand kinda escalates quickly. I'm pretty sure UTG+2 is going to call the CO's shove... I'm holding the draw to the nut flush. Is it timid to fold here or reckless to call? Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Crookdimwit (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Button ($4.40) SB ($4.80) Crookdimwit ($25) UTG ($24.30) UTG+1 ($27.05) UTG+2 ($25.35) MP1 ($75.27) MP2 ($63.04) MP3 ($26.85) CO ($40.06) Preflop: Crookdimwit is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Crookdimwit checks. Flop: ($1.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> Crookdimwit checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $0.25</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, Crookdimwit calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to $8</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $25</font>, Crookdimwit....? |
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Re: Table goes crazy. I\'ve got the draw to the nuts. Push?
fold - you only have a probable 9 outs and basically no fold equity.
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Re: Table goes crazy. I\'ve got the draw to the nuts. Push?
which gives you good odds to make your flush if UTG gets allin as well.
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Re: Table goes crazy. I\'ve got the draw to the nuts. Push?
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fold - you only have a probable 9 outs and basically no fold equity. [/ QUOTE ] Whats fold equity? I've seen the term posted around and have been embarressed to ask. |
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Re: Table goes crazy. I\'ve got the draw to the nuts. Push?
with a table this crazy call it, your odds should be good.
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Re: Table goes crazy. I\'ve got the draw to the nuts. Push?
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fold - you only have a probable 9 outs and basically no fold equity. [/ QUOTE ] Uhm...that's why it's a call, not a fold. With nine outs, you're a 1.86-to-1 dog in the hand. If UTG+2 calls the pot will have a total of $53, and you'll have to risk $22 to win it. That's 2.41-to-1 odds. Even if you count nothing for your ace outs, and even if you somewhat discount your flush draw outs because of possible redraws (full houses), you've still got a reasonable call. You see overpairs, two pair, and lesser draws quite often here. Now, if you thought there was a good chance UTG+2 would fold, you could let this go, but I agree with OP: that's not going to happen, especially after you call padding the pot severely. Unless someone physically flips up a set, you can call this pot. |
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Re: Table goes crazy. I\'ve got the draw to the nuts. Push?
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[ QUOTE ] fold - you only have a probable 9 outs and basically no fold equity. [/ QUOTE ] Whats fold equity? I've seen the term posted around and have been embarressed to ask. [/ QUOTE ] Don't be embarassed because you don't know what folding equity is; be embarassed because you didn't use the search engine. This exact topic was discussed in detail just last week. |
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Re: Table goes crazy. I\'ve got the draw to the nuts. Push?
fold equity is the value/equity you gain when forcing an opponent to fold.
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Re: Table goes crazy. I\'ve got the draw to the nuts. Push?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] fold - you only have a probable 9 outs and basically no fold equity. [/ QUOTE ] Whats fold equity? I've seen the term posted around and have been embarressed to ask. [/ QUOTE ] Don't be embarassed because you don't know what folding equity is; be embarassed because you didn't use the search engine. This exact topic was discussed in detail just last week. [/ QUOTE ] Musta missed it, I appreciate the link just the same. Beer makes me lazy. |
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Re: Table goes crazy. I\'ve got the draw to the nuts. Push?
No worries. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] It's an important topic, and one that many players don't understand sufficiently.
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