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Old 09-18-2006, 02:33 PM
mjtandy mjtandy is offline
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Default Easy fold here? Heads-up against possible nuts

Game #3408476514: Hold'em NL (£1/£2)
Table "Housewife" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 1: Hero (£324.13 in chips)
Seat 2: Villain (£120.37 in chips)
Villain: posts small blind £1
Hero: posts big blind £2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hero [3s 2c]
Villain: calls £1
Hero: checks
----- FLOP ----- [7c 4s 5c]
Hero: bets £4
Villain: calls £4
----- TURN ----- [7c 4s 5c][Jd]
Hero: checks
Villain: bets £4
Hero: calls £4
----- RIVER ----- [7c 4s 5c Jd][Ah]
Hero: bets £12
Villain: raises to £110.37 and is all-in

The games is in £'s so you could call it a $2/4 heads up game if you wish. Villain is extremely weak passive and this is the first time he has moved all-in in about 45 mins. Just want to check that folding is definitely the right option here, or is there any other way the hand should be played differently.
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:42 PM
Gugel Gugel is offline
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Default Re: Easy fold here? Heads-up against possible nuts

i don't think i could fold here. there is ONE possible hand that beats you, 68. i realize that he's been playing weak-tight, but he could have become frustrated with being pushed around, have a strong, but sencond best hand, etc.
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Easy fold here? Heads-up against possible nuts

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i don't think i could fold here. there is ONE possible hand that beats you, 68. i realize that he's been playing weak-tight, but he could have become frustrated with being pushed around, have a strong, but sencond best hand, etc.

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i think 2pair or set are more likely. problem is the pot seems so small we're getting pretty bad odds here but i think i call.
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: Easy fold here? Heads-up against possible nuts

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Villain is extremely weak passive...

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Is there any chance that he could play AA this way? If there is you have to call here... i mean come on it´s HU and you have the second nutz... ez call IMO...
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Easy fold here? Heads-up against possible nuts

maybe i am understating hom weak this player actually is. about 10 mins before hand i raised with a4d and he called with j10, the flop was akq and he check called me down to the river where i hit my flush. i also saw him check down a set on the river because a 3 flush came out.
i honestly dont think he would push in this hand without the nuts, but if he has been slowplaying something else or the river hit him hard, do the odds i am getting on the river justify a call? i know that if i wait him out i can grind him into the ground through pure aggression instead...
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: Easy fold here? Heads-up against possible nuts

yeah he is shoving into a very small pot but the point is you have the second nuts and he could be doing this with the same hand or worse(2-pair, trips)...i think that alone justifies a call but by checking his agg factor would be an easy way to decide...if he is an .30 or something i think then i lean more towards a fold obv but anything over 2 or so i think you have to call.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: Easy fold here? Heads-up against possible nuts

i dont have the 2nd nuts, that would be 36. i have the 3rd nuts.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: Easy fold here? Heads-up against possible nuts

wow you are right...we all totally missed that...i think now you can safely fold considering the terrible pot odds that you are getting and his passive nature.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Easy fold here? Heads-up against possible nuts

60BB, heads up, third nuts?????

incorrectly folding this is a huge mistake. you have a better handle on his range here than anyone, but this looks terrible
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