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Old 09-18-2006, 03:03 AM
r0eKY r0eKY is offline
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Default paired flop vs kk 200nl

villian is 28/14/2.7 no hands play with him during the current session

i been playing laggy 26/21 and had a very large stack but villian had only been at table for 3-5 orbits. i bet the flop weak to under rep my hand. need thoughts on flop move cuz i feel a sick feeling in my stomach after looking at the way i played this

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($164.60)
MP ($283.63)
Hero ($726.08)
Button ($201.75)
SB ($343.70)
BB ($200)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $26</font>, Hero calls $18. thoughts?

Turn: ($71) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $47</font>, Hero calls $47. raise or fold spot?

River: ($165) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $165
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: paired flop vs kk 200nl

LOL, that's why we don't "bet the flop to look weak"
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: paired flop vs kk 200nl

so lets say i bet 12-15 and get rr now what, easy fold?
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: paired flop vs kk 200nl

Bet the [censored] pot, I don't know why so many 1/2 players are scared to do this. If he raises after that I'd call and see what he does on the turn, folding to a real bet.
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Old 09-18-2006, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: paired flop vs kk 200nl

Agreed with T-god, if you bet weak, you better be prepared to play poker, and this requires knowing your opponent, and the reason to bet weak is to manipulate him into doing something you want him to do. When you made that bet did you say, "hmm I want him to raise me when I'm out of position". Given your post you didnt. How you played it I don't know the size of the river bet so I can't say whether fold or call is justified.
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Old 09-18-2006, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: paired flop vs kk 200nl

thx t-god

i've been working on my flop and turn play, let's say villian
open limps, i rr 12 then c-bet 3/4 pot instead of pot, this way villian "speculates". i've found this to be a great way to set people up for aq+ 10+ thoughts
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Old 09-18-2006, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: paired flop vs kk 200nl

wtf happen to river it didnt go c/f it was a push for 120, that i didnt expect
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Old 09-18-2006, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: paired flop vs kk 200nl

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wtf happen to river it didnt go c/f it was a push for 120, that i didnt expect

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Why not? QT can't win unless they bet.
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