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Old 09-17-2006, 07:52 PM
Game_On Game_On is offline
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Default TPTK fired 2 shells, Value bet the river?

Party Poker ($4 no limit). Hand converted by Check Raised hand converter

Preflop (6 players): Hero is SB with
1 fold.
MP calls ($4.00) [2.5:1].
2 folds.
HERO calls ($2.00) [6:1].
BB checks.

Flop (3 bets ($12) in pot, 3 players):

HERO checks.
BB checks.
MP bets $11.00.
HERO raises $55.00.
BB folds [1.42:1].
MP calls ($44.00) [2.77:1].

Turn (30.5 bets ($122) in pot, 2 players):

HERO bets $90.00.
MP calls ($90.00) [3.36:1].

River (75.5 bets ($302) in pot, 2 players):


Villian has 251$ left on river. And I have him covered with 1500$. Villian hasn't been playing at the table long and i have no stats/reads on him yet. is this an easy value bet (and if so how much?) or c/c? hows the rest of my line?
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: TPTK fired 2 shells, Value bet the river?

Raise preflop. Lead the flop.
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: TPTK fired 2 shells, Value bet the river?

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Raise preflop. Lead the flop.

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i'll usually raise this pf but for some reason i just didnt feel like playing AQ oop to the new guy. so given that i didnt raise preflop. u still like a lead?
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Old 09-17-2006, 08:02 PM
bheinima bheinima is offline
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Default Re: TPTK fired 2 shells, Value bet the river?

No value bet. Check/call. You have way overrepresented your hand, and it looks like you have a set or two-pair, so he may be calling you down with a better hand.

Raise pre-flop and lead flop. Your hand isn't good enough to be taking the line you took, and even if it was, I don't like this line.
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Old 09-17-2006, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: TPTK fired 2 shells, Value bet the river?

You opted not to raise PF because you didn't want to play a big pot with AQ OOP yet then check-raised the flop when you hit, basically just bloating the pot OOP with a hand that's strong but certainly not stellar.

Given that you didn't raise preflop, I'd usually just check/call the flop (and probably lead most turns).
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Old 09-17-2006, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: TPTK fired 2 shells, Value bet the river?

raise preflop

sometimes i just value push here. looks like your opponent is a fish and fish like KQ or QJ
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Old 09-17-2006, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: TPTK fired 2 shells, Value bet the river?

raise pf, lead flop rather than c/r (you overrepresent your hand)

as played i prob just push river . ....i dont think i would ever bet less
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: TPTK fired 2 shells, Value bet the river?

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You opted not to raise PF because you didn't want to play a big pot with AQ OOP yet then check-raised the flop when you hit, basically just bloating the pot OOP with a hand that's strong but certainly not stellar.

Given that you didn't raise preflop, I'd usually just check/call the flop (and probably lead most turns).

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