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Old 09-16-2006, 06:30 PM
ddg333 ddg333 is offline
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Default Stars NL $100: So AK flops TPTK in a reraised pot.....

Ok... MP1 in the 2nd hand has only shown down one hand so far at this table. (1st hand) I've been playing fairly loose and aggressive considering it's 9 handed so I've been played back at a fair bit. My normal game would be the 6-max tables at party. My read on him was that he's a weekend gambler, so I wasn't quite sure what to do when he shoved his stack in my face (2nd hand). Do we make this call or do we give him credit for 2pair/set/unlikely Q10? Also.. I know cold calling AK OOP is pretty bad here but it allows me to get away if MP1 reraises again quite cheaply.
CO's minreraise preflop doesn't scare me particularly. I've seen him do this with mid-high pocket pairs and AQ.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO ($129.15)
Button ($95.35)
SB ($96.50)
BB ($84.70)
Hero ($187.70)
UTG+1 ($98.50)
MP1 ($50.40)
MP2 ($99.55)
MP3 ($110.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $8</font>, MP3 calls $4.

Turn: ($20.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, MP3 checks.

River: ($20.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $37</font>, MP3 calls $37.

Final Pot: $94.50

Results:
MP2 has Tc Ac (flush, ace high).
MP3 has 3h Ks (two pair, threes and twos).
Outcome: MP2 wins $94.50.

MP3 is MP1 in next hand

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP2 ($95.35)
CO ($96)
Button ($84.60)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($186.70)</font>
BB ($98.50)
UTG ($50.40)
UTG+1 ($146.05)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 ($100)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $6.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $4.

Flop: ($22) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $93</font>, CO folds, Hero?


Am I good here slightly more than 1/3 times? This would be 1.8:1 right? $73 to win $135. This is the guy who thought his 3s were worth 30 bucks on a flushed board. I didn't have my HUD going yet unfortunately so no quantitative reads of that sort. Sorry if this hand is easy.. just checking.
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Old 09-16-2006, 06:39 PM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Default Re: Stars NL $100: So AK flops TPTK in a reraised pot.....

He limp/called the first hand, this one he seems more aggro. This might be the type of player to push Kx here though, or a flush draw. I think you've gotta call.
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Old 09-16-2006, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL $100: So AK flops TPTK in a reraised pot.....

I think I call here as well, given the odds and the situation. He will often show you KQ, KJ, and K10, maybe even QJ.
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Old 09-16-2006, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL $100: So AK flops TPTK in a reraised pot.....

fold PF
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Old 09-16-2006, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL $100: So AK flops TPTK in a reraised pot.....

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fold PF

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That's what I was wondering.. if I'm not comfortable in these situations is this best being OOP and all?
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Old 09-16-2006, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL $100: So AK flops TPTK in a reraised pot.....

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fold PF

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That's what I was wondering.. if I'm not comfortable in these situations is this best being OOP and all?

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IMO yes
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Old 09-16-2006, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL $100: So AK flops TPTK in a reraised pot.....

So I stoved the equity in this hand with a fairly wide range for his openraising requirements and I ended up with this:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

35,640 games 0.005 secs 7,128,000 games/sec

Board: Kh Js 9h
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 31.9683 % 23.54% 08.43% { AdKs }
Hand 2: 68.0317 % 59.60% 08.43% { KK+, JJ, 99, AKs, AhQh, AhJh, AhTh, Ah8h, Ah7h, KJs+, K9s, QJs, J9s, AKo, KJo }

In retrospect this call may have been -EV, although not terribly so. The odds just aren't quite there. Is this range reasonable/missing anything?
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Old 09-16-2006, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL $100: So AK flops TPTK in a reraised pot.....

In the first hand you played you hand exactly like a flopped flush and anyone who isn't a complete retard would spot it a mile off either bet or check call.

The second hand is fine PF if you ask me I'm not folding AK every time there is a pussy raise behind me, but on the flop you have to fold what an earth is he pushing here thats worse than AK?
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Old 09-16-2006, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL $100: So AK flops TPTK in a reraised pot.....

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In the first hand you played you hand exactly like a flopped flush and anyone who isn't a complete retard would spot it a mile off either bet or check call.

The second hand is fine PF if you ask me I'm not folding AK every time there is a pussy raise behind me, but on the flop you have to fold what an earth is he pushing here thats worse than AK?

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LOL actually I folded preflop in the first hand but I would have been in some pain had I played it out.
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Old 09-16-2006, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL $100: So AK flops TPTK in a reraised pot.....

Results: he flips over 8h10h for the combo draw. Turn and river are bricks... MHIG. Still not sure about this though.
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