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Old 09-15-2006, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: Online gambling to be attached to defense bill???- article Uh oh!!

It will either be the Leach Bill or the version passed in the house, unclear at this time.
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Old 09-15-2006, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: Online gambling to be attached to defense bill???- article Uh oh!!

Nah, just Frist resorting to his usual dishonest practices. If he can kill dogs for medical research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Fr...ts_controversy), he'll try to kill online gambling.
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Old 09-15-2006, 08:49 AM
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Friday AM update:

According to CongressDailyAM, one of the publications staff, members, and lobbyists read every morning on Capitol Hill, negotiations on the DoD Authorization conference report are still underway. Here's the blurb:

"The leaders of the two committees failed to wrap up conference negotiations on the defense authorization bill Thursday, as members had initially intended. House Armed Services Tactical Air and Land Subcommittee Chairman Curt Weldon, R-Pa., said members still have to complete work on a handful of issues and would not file the conference report until next week."

Since members go out of town on weekends to return to their districts & campaign, it seems to me that failure to complete the report Thursday night means it will now be completed no earlier than Monday night, and probably maybe even a little later than that. Staff will probably work through the weekend on it, but they are not making the high-profile decisions on outstanding items that members can make. Staff might be negotiating the gambling language, but only members can ultimately decide whether it gets inserted or not. Members won't be back in DC until Monday evening -- that's the general trend, anyhow.

So, what's the impact for poker? Well, every day that goes by that the conference report remains "open" is another day that Frist & Co will have time to try to insert the Leach bill. In that sense, delay is a bad thing. It seems clear to me that the DoD Authorization has sufficient momentum to pass, and that it will get a very brief amount of floor time needed to get through. The only question is what goes into the bill, if anything.

Look for some news updates later today and through the weekend -- but the rubber will really meet the road during the 36 hour period between Monday at noon and Tuesday night.
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Old 09-15-2006, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: Online gambling to be attached to defense bill???- article Uh oh!!

Could the content end up being less than the Leach bill or if this is attached it will basically be the Leach bill ?
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Old 09-15-2006, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: Online gambling to be attached to defense bill???- article Uh oh!!

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Could the content end up being less than the Leach bill or if this is attached it will basically be the Leach bill ?

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From what I understand the content could technically be virtually anything, but more likely than not it will be a watered down version of the bill passed in the House

Any passage of a "gambling bill" is a victory for Frist, ultimately he is less concerned with actually stopping gaming then he is with winning this victory regardless of how irrelevant it may be

FWIW, I worked in the banking industry for two years, Neteller and Firepay are coded differently than "gaming transactions", Banks are easily able to stop CC payments because of the manner in which they are coded, but it would take an overhaul of the entire way banks process online transactions to stop Neteller and the like

This of course is irrelevant until we actually see the language we are up against, in the end the government can force the banks to do whatever they want
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Old 09-15-2006, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: Online gambling to be attached to defense bill???- article Uh oh!!

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Could the content end up being less than the Leach bill or if this is attached it will basically be the Leach bill ?

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From what I understand the content could technically be virtually anything, but more likely than not it will be a watered down version of the bill passed in the House

Any passage of a "gambling bill" is a victory for Frist, ultimately he is less concerned with actually stopping gaming then he is with winning this victory regardless of how irrelevant it may be

FWIW, I worked in the banking industry for two years, Neteller and Firepay are coded differently than "gaming transactions", Banks are easily able to stop CC payments because of the manner in which they are coded, but it would take an overhaul of the entire way banks process online transactions to stop Neteller and the like

This of course is irrelevant until we actually see the language we are up against, in the end the government can force the banks to do whatever they want

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That's good news from a banking insider, thanks a lot.
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Old 09-15-2006, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: Online gambling to be attached to defense bill???- article Uh oh!!

FWIW AbsolutePoker credit card deposit was coded "electronics". Not everyone cooperates when our government makes things very difficult.
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Old 09-15-2006, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: Online gambling to be attached to defense bill???- article Uh oh!!

So, this realistically has a shot of passing now?
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Old 09-15-2006, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Online gambling to be attached to defense bill???- article Uh oh!!

thanks again for all the great info mr. k. from your earlier list in this post with what seemed like at least 25% of congressional members who's offices would you say it would do the most good to flood with phone calls expressing our concern over this bill? (i saw nate's list -- thanks for that -- but is there any way we could pare that down some and concentrate our efforts on a specific few who have the most influence?)
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Old 09-15-2006, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: Online gambling to be attached to defense bill???- article Uh oh!!

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So, this realistically has a shot of passing now?

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From what I've read, it feels like we're(online poker players) all in with AK suited against two Jacks.
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