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Old 09-14-2006, 06:15 PM
anteatereater anteatereater is offline
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Default Re: Can the Sklansky-Chubukov Rankings be extended to other positions?

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Yes, exactly so it is probably always correct to go all-in even if the SC rankings show that you have a slight -EV.

Now if only I could remember all of the rankings... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Yeah, I have a printout I use while playing. I have been experimenting playing 4 tables and buying in for the minimum of $20 at NL $1/$2 (some sites have a $40 minbuy). I still think I fold too much. That's why I am trying to determine the minimum stack I can fold certain hands with first to enter with x numbers of players remaining.

I still find myself open folding AQ from early position with a $17 or bigger stack. But AQ's s-c number divided 9 is about $21. I trying to figure out if I am folding this hand too often.

AQ will never get a dominating hand to fold and won't get many calls from dominated hands. 99 has about the same s-c number as AQ, but it can sometimes get called by smaller pairs and also might get TT to fold.

I guess that's robust vs vulnerable like the book talked about.

I have found that a lot of opponents seem to always put me on AK when I move in and will call with any pair. That's nice when I have a bigger pair and no disaster if I have overcards.

And the fish will always put me on a hand that doesn't dominate them. If they have AJ, they'll put me on TT and call. But if they have 66, they'll put me on AK and call.

I get called by a lot of hands that dominate no hand I could possibly move-in with in that situation.

And if I get caught moving in from the sb or button with say Q7s for $12, and later I am reraising someone all-in for $30, some players won't realize how different the two situations are and call with hands they shouldn't, because they saw my Q7s push.
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Old 09-14-2006, 06:33 PM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: Can the Sklansky-Chubukov Rankings be extended to other positions?

Yes, well I guess that's where table image comes into it. If they see you going all-in with Q7s then their calling requirments will be lower and you can take advantage of that. You bring up an interesting idea about the AQ. I'll have to read robust section again. however, the general idea is that it doesn't matter if you get calls that dominate your hand if you go by the SC rankings you will still make a profit. So I would play AQ, if everyone folds you pick up the blinds, that's one of the aspects the SC rankings take into consideration.
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