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Old 09-14-2006, 04:17 PM
callmedonnie callmedonnie is offline
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Default Tough spot w/ top two?

The SB's stats are 22/17/3.39 and he is capable of bluff turn raises to PF 3 bettors w/ a pair of aces, two kicker. The BB is a 35/24/2 and beyond that, I don't really have a specific read.

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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with :qc :jh
2 folds, Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: :jd :9c :qd (7.5SB, 3 players)
SB bets</font>, BB raises</font>, Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: :4c (9.75BB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets</font>, Hero ?
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:32 PM
raytownloc raytownloc is offline
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Default Re: Tough spot w/ top two?

I like a call down here. If someone flopped a straight, id rather find out with an extra couple small bets on the flop than by getting raised on the turn. Your ahead a good share of the time here to overpairs, TPTK, and nut flush draws gone wild, so I call down. Plus you have outs to a boat.
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Old 09-14-2006, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot w/ top two?

My first reaction was you have to bet here, there are too many draws that you're currently beating and don't want to give a free river.

At this point I think AQ/AJ/KQ/KJ or an Ax diamond draw are bigger pieces of both these players ranges than KT or a set, so you are probably still ahead. What worries me is that all of those draws should be betting.

Hmm...tough one. I guess in the heat of the moment I would bet/call and spike a Q on the river. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 09-14-2006, 05:20 PM
ChexNFX ChexNFX is offline
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Default Re: Tough spot w/ top two?

Raise
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Old 09-14-2006, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot w/ top two?

How does one bluff raise the turn with a pair of aces?
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot w/ top two?

WTF Chex?! Damn I hate it when people offer their input without explaining their reasoning. Your [censored] response is worthless without offering an explanation.
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:10 PM
Unguarded Unguarded is offline
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I would have waited for the turn to raise. There are many cards that can change the value of your hand quite a bit, and you're folding out nothing on the flop.
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:25 PM
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I would have waited for the turn to raise. There are many cards that can change the value of your hand quite a bit, and you're folding out nothing on the flop.

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This is a good point. RIO is a big concern on such a coordinated flop against 2 villains who seem to like their hands quite a bit.
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Old 09-14-2006, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot w/ top two?

This hand is messed up ... the more I read the action, I think BB actually flopped the straight with KT, and SB *might* have JJ or QQ, but probably not if they didn't cap the flop ( maybe 99 fits this ), AQ I guess and he was hoping for HU with you preflop ... I call down, but honestly don't expect to win
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Old 09-14-2006, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot w/ top two?

I would call down from here, you might be ahead here if your opponent has an overpair.
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