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Old 09-14-2006, 01:23 AM
CatfishKing CatfishKing is offline
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Default Anyone push this rivered straight?

Villian seems decent, im fairly sure he has at least a K. I was planning on leading the river if a 9 fell but ace fills up AK so is the river c/c or push?



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($106.95)
BB ($51.05)
UTG ($96.52)
Button ($123.8)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) calls $1.50, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($6) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2, BB calls $2.

Turn: ($12) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7, BB folds.

River: ($26) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $15</font>.

HERO???

Am I missing value by c/c or is any push only gonna get called by boats?
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Old 09-14-2006, 01:28 AM
JrJordan JrJordan is offline
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Default Re: Anyone push this rivered straight?

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Villian seems decent, im fairly sure he has at least a K. I was planning on leading the river if a 9 fell but ace fills up AK so is the river c/c or push?



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($106.95)
BB ($51.05)
UTG ($96.52)
Button ($123.8)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) calls $1.50, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($6) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2, BB calls $2.

Turn: ($12) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7, BB folds.

River: ($26) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $15</font>.

HERO???

Am I missing value by c/c or is any push only gonna get called by boats?

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Push is very bad here. It's a gross overbet that will only get called by hands that beat you. If he's a solid player then I don't even see trip K's calling a huge overbet, or a big checkraise.

I'd likely make a pot sized bet on the river expecting to get called by any K. If he raises then it's a tough decision since your hand is well disguised, but QQ+ and KQ+ are a major part of his rsnge considering the preflop raise UTG.

Hmmm, now I'm wondering if check/call is best here since it avoids facing a tough raise and I think the majority of his calling range is betting when checked to anyway. Since the Kx is a huge part of his range I like the check/call the best.
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Old 09-14-2006, 05:49 AM
tubasteve tubasteve is offline
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Default Re: Anyone push this rivered straight?

Fold preflop.

Also, you have to realize that this draw really sucks, because none of your outs are clean...often you will make the straight and villain will make a full house with this paired flop Not all OESDs are created equal; fold the turn.
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Old 09-14-2006, 06:02 AM
Kurtiii Kurtiii is offline
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Default Re: Anyone push this rivered straight?

i fold preflop without a read that he is a callingstation who wonŽt charge me for drawing but will pay me off if i hit with any pair.
Also fold flop imo, youŽre drawing to 4 "somewhat clean" outs and could be drawing dead allready.
As played fold turn, as played just call river.

iŽd be happy to win a decent sized pot against his AQ in wich you had no bussines to begin with.

my 2 cents [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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