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View Poll Results: Limp/reraising big pocket pairs preflop in Pot Limit - suggested or not?
No - this is usually -EV and I'm always taking money from guys who do. 8 47.06%
Yes - sometimes it's a valid tactic for a medium stack 9 52.94%
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Old 09-13-2006, 10:04 AM
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Default Re: KK - pre-flop question

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...go all in...

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I think most people fold QQ to that

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i don't think this statement is true.

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In villan's shoes you?
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Old 09-13-2006, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: KK - pre-flop question

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...go all in...

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I think most people fold QQ to that

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i don't think this statement is true.

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I agree. A decent player will see this as a squeeze and probably call with TT+ and AK.
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Old 09-13-2006, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: KK - pre-flop question

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Also, if we do raise to 55 and he just calls us what do we do on the following flops:
a) 973r
b) QJ2 two of one suit
c) A94r

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Old 09-13-2006, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: KK - pre-flop question

I raise to ~58ish. If he calls and the flop comes ace-high, I cry, but I still get ready to go to the felt. The reason is, without a read, what does he call the large preflop bet with? AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, AK. KK and AK are not likely as we have 2 kings. That leaves us only afraid of AA and possibly AK. That is why I like reraising preflop as it forces the villain to define his hand a bit. Maybe a larger pf raise would give me more confidence (~$64), but it may not be very important. I would have a harder time on any 2-card broadway flop without a king. Facing aggression, I am not sure what I would do, but this is a big pot by that point, so I probably still get it all in.

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Old 09-13-2006, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: KK - pre-flop question

what is you raise to $55 and the botton pushes all in??

will it still be correct to call.. knowing that you are getting 2:1??
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Old 09-13-2006, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: KK - pre-flop question

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what is you raise to $55 and the botton pushes all in??

will it still be correct to call.. knowing that you are getting 2:1??

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without a read on villian if u raise to 55 u have to call a push. 2:1 with kings is an easy call without a read that villian is a complete nit.
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Old 09-13-2006, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: KK - pre-flop question

as for tha hand i really like the call preflop and cr ai. this line seems like it disguises our hand so well and a cbet from villian will all but commit him.
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