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Old 09-09-2006, 06:27 PM
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Default Bellagio 100/200 Hands

These are all hands I played last week from Wed Aug 30th through Sunday late night. Anyone else play at these times?
Overall the games were good, apparently one regular donates a ton of money(500k this year is what Sam said) in the game. He dropped 30k while I was out there and it appeared he had no chance of winning, it was like he wasn't in the game, but his money gets into the pots somehow. I also lucked into a 4-6 handed dream session must move game with 3-4 other players who had no clue and then David Levi played for a while. I'm not sure if David is a winning player either though. A woman sat down also one night and played 90% of hands for 3 hours dropping 7k, that was fun.

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AQ on button. mp lag(nicknamed Borgata Boy for anyone who was out there, loose, played decent postflop besides calling down way too much) raises, I 3 bet, Terri 4 bets out of bb, we both call. My image is TAG
Flop Q84 rainbow, Terri leads, lag raises, I 3 bet, Terri folds, lag calls. Turn T. Lag checks, I bet, lag checkraises

What do you do on the turn if Terri would have called the flop 3 bet?

Hand 2- K9s in bb. Folds around to Nikko(TAG) who raises on button, I call. Flop T92, I lead, Nikko raises, I call. Turn 3. I check call. River 3. I check, Nikko bets. Anyone finding a fold here or 3 betting the flop? I had check folded out of the bb once previous to him.

Hand 3: AKs in the bb. Nikko raises utg(This is a time pot also as that may tighten his range slightly) folds around to me and I 3 bet, Nikko 4 bets. Flop Kxx, I lead, Nikko calls. Turn x, I bet, Nikko raises

Hand 4:KQhrts in the bb. lag limper mp raises I call out of bb lag calls. Flop 846 w/ 2 hearts. original raiser bets, I raise lag from hand 1 calls 2 cold, original raiser 3 bets, I call. Turn is 5 of hearts


Here is a funny hand from the regular who has dropped a ton. We are playing 6 handed. He is in the cutoff and open limps, I raise AJo on the button, bb calls, and cutoff thinks and folds. ha The flop comes Jxx and he tells me he folded J6s.
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Old 09-09-2006, 06:37 PM
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AQ on button. mp lag(nicknamed Borgata Boy for anyone who was out there, loose, played decent postflop besides calling down way too much) raises, I 3 bet, Terri 4 bets out of bb, we both call. My image is TAG
Flop Q84 rainbow, Terri leads, lag raises, I 3 bet, Terri folds, lag calls. Turn T. Lag checks, I bet, lag checkraises

What do you do on the turn if Terri would have called the flop 3 bet?

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uhmm, if your question is based on different action, post the action. what happened after terri called the flop 3-bet? did the lag 4-bet? what was the turn actioN?

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Hand 2- K9s in bb. Folds around to Nikko(TAG) who raises on button, I call. Flop T92, I lead, Nikko raises, I call. Turn 3. I check call. River 3. I check, Nikko bets. Anyone finding a fold here or 3 betting the flop? I had check folded out of the bb once previous to him.

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who is nikko? you have to call this without a read.

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Hand 3: AKs in the bb. Nikko raises utg(This is a time pot also as that may tighten his range slightly) folds around to me and I 3 bet, Nikko 4 bets. Flop Kxx, I lead, Nikko calls. Turn x, I bet, Nikko raises


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again, who is nikko? does xxx mean there's trips on board? if so call down for sure. otherwise, read dependent. probably call down.

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Hand 4:KQhrts in the bb. lag limper mp raises I call out of bb lag calls. Flop 846 w/ 2 hearts. original raiser bets, I raise lag from hand 1 calls 2 cold, original raiser 3 bets, I call. Turn is 5 of hearts


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i'd probably 4-bet the flop. bet the turn.
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Old 09-09-2006, 06:50 PM
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uhmm, if your question is based on different action, post the action. what happened after terri called the flop 3-bet? did the lag 4-bet? what was the turn actioN?

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I'm saying if Terri calls the 3 bet, then lag calls the 3 bet, then checked to me on turn.


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who is nikko? you have to call this without a read.

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I don't know how often he is in Vegas but he was in that game when I played it in July and then was there all week while I was there this last week. He lives in San Diego. He is a friend of Mike's(who is a regular) so figured some may know him.

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again, who is nikko? does xxx mean there's trips on board? if so call down for sure. otherwise, read dependent. probably call down.

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I don't remember if it was trips or not, I don't think so, it was K62 or something random
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Old 09-10-2006, 04:48 AM
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I was in this game for the exact days u were. Who were you?
I know Nico, he was certainly one of the best players in the game. Borgata Joe is really only a lag pre flop. He is pretty honest post flop and is far more passive than your average 2+2 high stakes player.


AQ hand, you are probably toast, but I would call it down, and I would still bet turn if terri was in the hand.

K9 - three bet the flop. I think a folkd here is good vs Nico on the river.

AKs - depending on my image, I Would either 3 bet the turn here or call and lead the river. (i.e. if I was playing laggy I would three bet)

KQhh - uh, bet?
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Old 09-10-2006, 01:39 PM
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I was in this game for the exact days u were. Who were you?


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5'8 black hair, Indiana shirt, Youbet.com shirt, blueish long sleeve shirt. Southern accent. Who were you?
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Old 09-10-2006, 08:03 PM
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Me, you and Nico played short together at the second 1/2 table on Thursday (Im white).
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Old 09-10-2006, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 100/200 Hands

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I was in this game for the exact days u were. Who were you?
I know Nico, he was certainly one of the best players in the game. Borgata Joe is really only a lag pre flop. He is pretty honest post flop and is far more passive than your average 2+2 high stakes player.


AKs - depending on my image, I Would either 3 bet the turn here or call and lead the river. (i.e. if I was playing laggy I would three bet)



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A turn 3-bet doesn't make too much sense to me here unless you think Nico will make this play and pay off with QQ/JJ. What do you think his preflop 4-betting range is?
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Old 09-10-2006, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 100/200 Hands

hand 1 - bet, duh.

hand 2 - No, I'd never fold that river. If I'm donking that flop I'm 3 betting it as well 95% of the time. You're line is fine but I'd never fold in a million years.

hand 3 - The x's are slightly important so you leaving them out hurts the flow of the hand as well as was there a flush draw out there? Not that it really matters but in spots like that I'd just call down.

hand 4 - I'd bet most of the time here.
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Old 09-10-2006, 11:48 PM
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A turn 3-bet doesn't make too much sense to me here unless you think Nico will make this play and pay off with QQ/JJ. What do you think his preflop 4-betting range is?

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That is exactly what I was thinking, assuming I have a bit of a lag image. As I mentioned, if I think he will fold QQ there I would stop and go.

Nico's 4 betting range is pretty big in this game, maybe 88+ and AQs.
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Old 09-11-2006, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: Bellagio 100/200 Hands

Hey Matt, I was your opponent in hands 2 & 3. It was good to meet you last week, too bad we didn’t get over to the Venetian again for any mixed games.

Hand #1: I think you’re behind here, probably to QT or a set. Borgata kid was laggy on the early streets, but a checkraise from him on the big streets was almost always a big hand. The pot is big though so I can’t really argue with a call down.

Hand #2: Not sure about the leading flop here, if I have absolutely nothing you miss out on getting another small bet out of me, since I’m betting this flop 99% of the time. My default line would be to checkraise the flop with your hand.

Hand #3: I think you put in the right amount of action, and calling down from there is fine. I may have checkraised the flop if I were you, but if you get raised again at any point I would just call down. If you 3-bet the turn and get any more action from me on that board, you’d be hoping for a chop at best.

Hand #4: I’d lead the turn. However, I probably would have put in more flop action since you’ve got the other guy trapped in there, either by 4-betting as played, or leading the flop initially planning to 3-bet.
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