PS16: 2 hands vs same villain; tricky river shoves

[AMT]

i had no reads at the time, but i did just take the last pot down by stacking another played with AA vs TP on 8 high flop. i also realize i VASTLY underbet the flop, so please dont reiterate, i realize i messed that up....as played, whats your line on river:


PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2170)
UTG+1 (t1320)
MP1 (t1105)
Hero (t3055)
CO (t1410)
Button (t1425)
SB (t1475)
BB (t1540)

Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t120</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t120, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t90, UTG+1 calls t90

Flop: (t495) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t210</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t210

Turn: (t915) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

River: (t915) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets t990, hero?
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then later:

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t2725)
UTG+1 (t1460)
MP1 (t1305)
MP2 (t1460)
CO (t1370)
Button (t2220)
SB (t1855)
BB (t1105)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero calls t50, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, CO calls t50, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t25, BB checks

Flop: (t200) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t150</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, SB calls t150, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Turn: (t500) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (t500) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t1655 (All-in)</font>, hero?

[lastchance]

There's no way you should risk 1650 to win t250 on the river there. I probably shove turn in hand 1, a Villain call on the flop means nothing.

[Flight_Risk]

In hand 1, there would be no tricky river shove to evaluate. Villain would either be calling or folding to a shove by me on the turn.

In hand 2, I'd fold.

Flight_Risk

[AMT]

[ QUOTE ]
In hand 1, there would be no tricky river shove to evaluate. Villain would either be calling or folding to a shove by me on the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

appreciate the analysis but i did play it differently and i do have a river decision that i wanted to ask the forum about, which is my original question

[ShipItHereHo]

i would fold on river in hand 1. there were 4 to see the flop and with ur flop bet u let people draw if they had 1 and every draw came. i would just fold with your stack size fwiw.

[critikal]

Hand 1 I'd bet more on the flop, then put him in on the turn. As played however I think I'd fold it.

Hand 2 is an easy fold imo.

[morgan180]

#1 as played i'd fold if i believed he was on the draw, i'd call if i thought he thought i was on some draw but saw my check as an indication that i didn't have the draw he thought i had.

#2 i'd fold

[microbet]

Second one I'd fold for sure. Don't fight for a split.

The first one I just don't know. Seems like the $16 player isn't going to bet a strong hand like that, but I don't know.