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Old 09-09-2006, 09:20 PM
Tyrannosaurus Tyrannosaurus is offline
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Default NL 100 flopped 2 pair on very scary board (edited)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($95.95)
BB ($96.37)
UTG ($102.30)
MP ($224.86)
CO ($277.21)
Button ($95.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, T. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
[color=#666666]1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) 9, T, Q [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $3</font>, [color=#CC3333]BB raises to $10</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($23) K [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]BB bets $9</font>, Hero calls $9.

River: ($41) T [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $30</font>, BB calls $30.

Final Pot: $101

sorry about converter. on the flop i'm thinking i'll bet any non draw filling turn.

Turn fills both draws. after he bets the turn, i'm just calling to see if i can make a boat on the river and stack him.

is betting the river or check raising better?
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Old 09-09-2006, 09:35 PM
MrMxyztplk MrMxyztplk is offline
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Default Re: NL 100 flopped 2 pair on very scary board

I'd 3-bet the flop: the board is just too draw heavy. As played, I think you have to check/fold the the turn. You're looking at 4 outs and you don't have the odds. River bet is good, IMO.
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Old 09-09-2006, 09:38 PM
Shaddux Shaddux is offline
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Default Re: NL 100 flopped 2 pair on very scary board

I probably go for a c/r.
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Old 09-10-2006, 12:35 AM
jakeduke jakeduke is offline
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Default Re: NL 100 flopped 2 pair on very scary board

I think a river C/R would be really good given how you got there.

I defintely think you have to 3bet the flop here; you need to charge draws hard now, as there's a zillion of them out there. As played I fold to the turn bet. Just about any draw villain could have got there, and you're most likely drawing to 4 outs.

I don't like your rationale about calling the turn bet trying to boat up. You don't even know if you have 4 clean outs, and you need to make 100 bucks or so (if your outs are totally clean) to make the call profitable.
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Old 09-10-2006, 01:22 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 flopped 2 pair on very scary board

Yeah in retrospect most flushes and straights just call that river, thinking i may have boated up.

In the heat of battle i was pretty sure i'd stack him if i hade my draw, and there was a slight chance he didn't have it and we'd check it down. Thanks for the input
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Old 09-10-2006, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 flopped 2 pair on very scary board

When you guys say 3bet the flop, i'm guessing you'd make it 26 or 30. What's the plan from there? if they

1 Go all in over the top

2 Call, the turn is a brick and they check

3 Call, and the turn is a K or a Heart
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