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Onaflag · #51 09-08-2006, 08:50 PM

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agreed bones, I am sending pokerstars an e mail and moving my money to party until they shut this program down.

and this post is blatent spam

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Noble, Al, for sure, but useless. Program works just fine on Party. As explained by Stars in that e-mail, I doubt they could ban it without rewriting their rules and rewriting their rules may unintentionally ban lots of software.

Our best bet is to keep this thread at the top until one of the mods gets tired of it and locks it. I'd volunteer, but don't feel like getting banned. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Onaflag...........

rvg72 · #52 09-08-2006, 08:55 PM

I don't think you can blame the developer - he has made a product which as of right now is legal to use on both sites. Stars have explictly said that they are ok with it.

What you do need to do is blame the sites for not treating this more seriously and banning the software. It is crazy that they ban Poker Prophecy but don't ban a real-time ICM calculator???????

rvg

Tickner · #53 09-08-2006, 10:26 PM

Any confirmation on the integrity of this program? Any programmers check this out to make sure it isnt infecting systems with viruses, etc?

This program is is taking online STT poker 100 steps toward bot-zone.

That said, now anyone who understand how SNGPT works can now 20 table and kick ass.

[Phill] · #54 09-08-2006, 10:31 PM

Tbh this is as likely to kill STTs as poker books killed off limit poker when crazy mavericks like Sklansky put to paper winning strategies.

That said, im on a 6 month plan to switch to NL cash anyways - make hay when the sun shines.

baltostar · #55 09-09-2006, 12:04 AM

It's always like this when technology comes on the scene, evening the playing field (in theory). There's always miserable whiners like Onaflag who protest oh too much. Cowering in the past, incapable of embracing the challenge of the new frontier.

Life and profit are never simple, never easy. The rules of the game change all the time. Adapt or die.

This reminds of when Level II quotes and tools like The Watcher cames on the scene for the home trader. All the pathetic whining from the big brokerages "it's going to kill our margins" "we won't be able to make markets profitably anymore" blah blah blah. And who actually had the acument to make money using Level II ? Very very few.

Freudian · #56 09-09-2006, 12:12 AM

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It's always like this when technology comes on the scene, evening the playing field (in theory). There's always miserable whiners like Onaflag who protest oh too much. Cowering in the past, incapable of embracing the challenge of the new frontier.

Life and profit are never simple, never easy. The rules of the game change all the time. Adapt or die.

This reminds of when Level II quotes and tools like The Watcher cames on the scene for the home trader. All the pathetic whining from the big brokerages "it's going to kill our margins" "we won't be able to make markets profitably anymore" blah blah blah. And who actually had the acument to make money using Level II ? Very very few.

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That is of course nonsense. Baseball didn't adapt to corked bats. Nor did most sports adapt to steroids. Just because something is possible doesn't mean it by default is ok.

If this program added a function that it automatically chose the best option and pressed the button, would it go from something that is ok to something that should be banned? If so, why? The player being present is superfluous anyway.

Slim Pickens · #57 09-09-2006, 01:10 AM

The difference between a 15% calling range and 65% is trivial on a human psychological level and so important to the mathematics of ICM-based push/fold calculations that no computer program some loser cooks up in his spare time is ever going to adapt fast enough to make SNG endgames anywhere close to unexploitable.

Gasp.

baltostar · #58 09-09-2006, 01:20 AM

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It's always like this when technology comes on the scene, evening the playing field (in theory). There's always miserable whiners like Onaflag who protest oh too much. Cowering in the past, incapable of embracing the challenge of the new frontier.

Life and profit are never simple, never easy. The rules of the game change all the time. Adapt or die.

This reminds of when Level II quotes and tools like The Watcher cames on the scene for the home trader. All the pathetic whining from the big brokerages "it's going to kill our margins" "we won't be able to make markets profitably anymore" blah blah blah. And who actually had the acument to make money using Level II ? Very very few.

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That is of course nonsense. Baseball didn't adapt to corked bats. Nor did most sports adapt to steroids. Just because something is possible doesn't mean it by default is ok.

If this program added a function that it automatically chose the best option and pressed the button, would it go from something that is ok to something that should be banned? If so, why? The player being present is superfluous anyway.

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You completely miss the point. There is nothing that can be done to stop these types of softwares. Either you accept, adapt, master, and live, or you deny, stagnate, and die.

[Phill] · #59 09-09-2006, 01:27 AM

I remember when bots killed limit online a couple years ago. Then pokertracker based HUDs killed the last NL/PL cash games off about a year ago. It was only time for STTs to be killed off in the exact same fashion as limit and NL cash.

Tickner · #60 09-09-2006, 01:29 AM

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I remember when bots killed limit online a couple years ago. Then pokertracker based HUDs killed the last NL/PL cash games off about a year ago. It was only time for STTs to be killed off in the exact same fashion as limit and NL cash.

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LOL. Wtf. Are you serious or joking, I cant tell?