WA/WB turned river decision (call, r/f, r/c) situation??

[Peter Harris]

Villain is a *total* unknown. First orbit.

call river, raise/fold river, raise/call river?

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="green">Hero...</font>

[jba]

it's pretty thin. if he has hands like AJ/AT in his range it's probably bad. if he can bet/fold KQ here it's terrible. if he'll call with TT you must raise.

if you assume his range is exactly AQ/QQ/AK/KK/KQ, he will call with everything, raise boats, and never bluff raise, raise/call is barely EV+ over just call (+.07BB).

[JerseyTom]

[grunch]

Raise and call a 3-bet.

He'll frustration-call a lot w/KK, KQ and maybe JJ.

If you get 3-bet, you'll be getting 11:1 to call and I think you're going to be toast nearly all the time, but I never fold here vs an unknown. Once I see what he has, I adjust later.


Tom

[Peter Harris]

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if you assume his range is exactly AQ/QQ/AK/KK/KQ, he will call with everything, raise boats, and never bluff raise, raise/call is barely EV+ over just call (+.07BB).

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I think we could raise it to AJ+, JJ+, KQs.

[sharpie]

I'd just call.

[bobhalford]

I probably just call it because I lose two bets a lot when behind and don't win much when ahead if he will fold JJ/TT.

[jba]

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if you assume his range is exactly AQ/QQ/AK/KK/KQ, he will call with everything, raise boats, and never bluff raise, raise/call is barely EV+ over just call (+.07BB).

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I think we could raise it to AJ+, JJ+, KQs.

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I was counting KQ already.. if you add AJ/JJ that's only an extra two good combos and the change in ev is negligible. if he starts 3betting with AK or folding JJ we're really in trouble. I like calling.

[Peter Harris]

in white

<font color="white">I hit the call button a split second before thinking "oh, is raising better?" and came here to post. Villain had A5o so I would have made a couple more bets, but it seems like the jury is out. Now have a read on villain's 3betting range.</font>

[jba]

Pete,

pretty obviously a raise against this guy, but I'd still call against a total unknown.

[W. Deranged]

I like a raise, Peter. Call a three-bet.