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Old 09-08-2006, 03:53 AM
portisfreak portisfreak is offline
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Default Low limits and Zee\'s 8/b book

I'm going through the book and I keep thinking "wow, half of this advice is pointless against low and micro limit players." I'm doing pretty well in these games .25/.50 to 1/2, but it's impossible to convince a 5-8-3 board when I have (5 A) A 2 4 that I'm ahead with my low draw and a hitchkiker with a pair of 9s in the hole catching second pair while I brick the last two streets.

Should I just shelve the book until I hit higher limits and just keep playing my straightfoward, 3 BB/100 play?
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Old 09-08-2006, 04:39 AM
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Default Re: Low limits and Zee\'s 8/b book

No book will teach you how to catch cards. Rest assured that Zee's book is applicable at all limits that have an even semi-normal ante/bring-in/betting limit ratio.
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Old 09-08-2006, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: Low limits and Zee\'s 8/b book

Obviously you have to use your judgement about what opponents will play and how they will react to your actions; that's poker. But the concepts in the book are still spot on, and you will find times even at low limits to pull some of the advanced plays.
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Old 09-08-2006, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: Low limits and Zee\'s 8/b book

Yeah, you should DEF move up to higher stakes where your bets and raises will be respected!
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Old 09-08-2006, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: Low limits and Zee\'s 8/b book

BBV ------> that way.
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Old 09-08-2006, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Low limits and Zee\'s 8/b book

Actually, have been looking at this book and find two pieces of advice in the section on loose games that I expect to help me a lot at very low limits where many are going in (and continuing) with garbage:

1. Play only the very best high hands and then be ready to fold if it develops badly; and

2. Play only the very best three card lows, i.e., 3 to a straight, 3 flushes, with an ace.
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Old 09-08-2006, 05:47 PM
portisfreak portisfreak is offline
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Default Re: Low limits and Zee\'s 8/b book

Ack! Don't kill me.

I really don't care if my bets or raises are respected. That's the bets part.
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Old 09-08-2006, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: Low limits and Zee\'s 8/b book

[ QUOTE ]
I'm going through the book and I keep thinking "wow, half of this advice is pointless against low and micro limit players." I'm doing pretty well in these games .25/.50 to 1/2, but it's impossible to convince a 5-8-3 board when I have (5 A) A 2 4 that I'm ahead with my low draw and a hitchkiker with a pair of 9s in the hole catching second pair while I brick the last two streets.

Should I just shelve the book until I hit higher limits and just keep playing my straightfoward, 3 BB/100 play?

[/ QUOTE ]

As in any form of poker, when your opponents call too often you loosen up on your value bets, and tighten up on your bluffs/semi bluffs(unless the semi-bluff is for value).
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Old 09-09-2006, 12:30 PM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Low limits and Zee\'s 8/b book

Well, pay particular attention to the advice that isn't "pointless." If you might ordinarily raise to knock a player out, but you know he isn't folding, don't raise for that reason.

AA542 is a large favorite against 99853, but it's hardly a lock.

If you're earning 3 BB/100, you might give some consideration to moving up.
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