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Old 09-08-2006, 01:54 AM
chopchoi chopchoi is offline
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Default top set makes a boat and calls the river

This is actually a $20 limit SNG, but since the SNG section deals exclusively with NL SNGs, I figured I'd post it here.

Limper has't played a pot yet, so I read him as pretty tight.

Level 2, blinds 15/30.

PF, hero is MP1 with KK, 1 limper. Hero raises, MP2 3 bets, MP 3 calls, limper calls, hero raises, everyone calls.

Flop: K, 6, 8. limper bets, hero raises, mp2 calls, mp3 folds, limper calls.

Turn: 8. limper checks, hero bets, mp2 calls, limper raises, hero 3 bets, mp2 folds, limper caps, hero calls.

River: x. limper bets, hero calls.

How's the river?
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: top set makes a boat and calls the river

Bad.
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: top set makes a boat and calls the river

why?
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: top set makes a boat and calls the river

I'd cap this river without thinking twice. That is, unless the river x was an 8. I'd do this in cash games and tournaments.

Sometimes you'll lose to the pocket 8s, but more likely the limper has K8 or 66 or even 6 8. He might even have much less.
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: top set makes a boat and calls the river

One other thing that may or may not be relevant: I had already won a pot shoing down KK.
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: top set makes a boat and calls the river

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One other thing that may or may not be relevant: I had already won a pot shoing down KK.

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So, win another! Cap the river and make it a big one.
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: top set makes a boat and calls the river

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why?

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You have the second nuts. I can think of a bunch of hands that you beat that play this way and only one that you don't beat. Cap the river. If there were no cap I'd go like 7 or 8 bets.
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: top set makes a boat and calls the river

Gotta raise that, eh?

I mean, yeah, he might have 88, but its much more likely he's got A8 or K8 or 86s or 66. Did he hit a flush and is pushing it into a paired board? I gotta think you're ahead of his range. Maybe you can call his 3-bet, but with top house I'm going all the way.

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Old 09-08-2006, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: top set makes a boat and calls the river

Are you really that afraid of quads? If you are then you better have more of a read then watching for 15 to 20 minutes in the first level or two of a limit SNG. Otherwise just raise for the extreme value here, only hand that beats you would be 88 unless the river makes a possible straight flush or a 6 to make quad 6s possible. You will have the best hand almost 99% of the time, punnish the possible AK, K8, K6, 86 or even AA. Remember folding for 15 min could just be cold cards.
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Old 09-08-2006, 03:19 AM
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Default Re: top set makes a boat and calls the river

You've got to be kidding me. At least let him 3-bet your before you put him on specifically 88. Cap.
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