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Old 09-06-2006, 12:26 PM
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Oh man did you hear the interview with the guy from Popular Mechanics in charge of debunking 911 conspiracy theories?

It was on the Charles Goyette show and it was so damn funny even though it was about a real thing and very scary if you think about it.

So Goyette asks how are we sure of the hijackers' identities, and the PM guy says they did DNA tests. Then Goyette asks where they got the DNA with which to match the crime scene DNA. The PM guy then realizes he's caught in a lie and tries to confuse the issue for like 5 minutes, and finally Goyette realizes he's not gonna get an answer cause the guy is totally BSing and doesn't even have his lies straight, so Goyette just hangs up on him and says he's welcome back anytime he can actually answer the question.

5 years to get their lies straight, and they can't even come close. Ugh.

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Chertoff's Cousin Penned Popular Mechanics 9/11 Hit Piece
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...offscousin.htm


Michael Chertoff is the current United States Secretary of Homeland Security.


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Benjamin Chertoff

Ouch.
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Old 09-06-2006, 12:35 PM
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Oh man did you hear the interview with the guy from Popular Mechanics in charge of debunking 911 conspiracy theories?

It was on the Charles Goyette show and it was so damn funny even though it was about a real thing and very scary if you think about it.

So Goyette asks how are we sure of the hijackers' identities, and the PM guy says they did DNA tests. Then Goyette asks where they got the DNA with which to match the crime scene DNA. The PM guy then realizes he's caught in a lie and tries to confuse the issue for like 5 minutes, and finally Goyette realizes he's not gonna get an answer cause the guy is totally BSing and doesn't even have his lies straight, so Goyette just hangs up on him and says he's welcome back anytime he can actually answer the question.

5 years to get their lies straight, and they can't even come close. Ugh.

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Chertoff's Cousin Penned Popular Mechanics 9/11 Hit Piece
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...offscousin.htm


Michael Chertoff is the current United States Secretary of Homeland Security.


ouch..

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Benjamin Chertoff

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Oops. How surprising, too.
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Old 09-06-2006, 12:54 PM
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Oh man did you hear the interview with the guy from Popular Mechanics in charge of debunking 911 conspiracy theories?

It was on the Charles Goyette show and it was so damn funny even though it was about a real thing and very scary if you think about it.

So Goyette asks how are we sure of the hijackers' identities, and the PM guy says they did DNA tests. Then Goyette asks where they got the DNA with which to match the crime scene DNA. The PM guy then realizes he's caught in a lie and tries to confuse the issue for like 5 minutes, and finally Goyette realizes he's not gonna get an answer cause the guy is totally BSing and doesn't even have his lies straight, so Goyette just hangs up on him and says he's welcome back anytime he can actually answer the question.

5 years to get their lies straight, and they can't even come close. Ugh.

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Chertoff's Cousin Penned Popular Mechanics 9/11 Hit Piece
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...offscousin.htm


Michael Chertoff is the current United States Secretary of Homeland Security.


ouch..

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Benjamin Chertoff

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You must be some kind of CIA patsy too. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 09-06-2006, 12:57 PM
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Oh man did you hear the interview with the guy from Popular Mechanics in charge of debunking 911 conspiracy theories?

It was on the Charles Goyette show and it was so damn funny even though it was about a real thing and very scary if you think about it.

So Goyette asks how are we sure of the hijackers' identities, and the PM guy says they did DNA tests. Then Goyette asks where they got the DNA with which to match the crime scene DNA. The PM guy then realizes he's caught in a lie and tries to confuse the issue for like 5 minutes, and finally Goyette realizes he's not gonna get an answer cause the guy is totally BSing and doesn't even have his lies straight, so Goyette just hangs up on him and says he's welcome back anytime he can actually answer the question.

5 years to get their lies straight, and they can't even come close. Ugh.

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Chertoff's Cousin Penned Popular Mechanics 9/11 Hit Piece
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...offscousin.htm


Michael Chertoff is the current United States Secretary of Homeland Security.


ouch..

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Benjamin Chertoff

Ouch.

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You must be some kind of CIA patsy too. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Please dont be alarmed by the black SUVs that should be pulling up to your house any moment now.
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:15 PM
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Update

Pakistani military claims to be misquoted in their alleged statement that bin Laden would not be arrested if he behaved as a lawful citizen. OK, fair enough.

Check out this report from a former US soldier and now embedded journalist. His blog is The Fourth Rail, the link is below. An excerpt:

"According to an anonymous intelligence source, the terms of the truce includes:

- The Pakistani Army is abandoning its garrisons in North and South Waziristan.
- The Pakistani Military will not operate in North Waziristan, nor will it monitor actions the region.
- Pakistan will turn over weapons and other equipment seized during Pakistani Army operations.
- The Taliban and al-Qaeda have set up a Mujahideen Shura (or council) to administer the agency.
- The truce refers to the region as The Islamic Emirate of Waziristan.
- An unknown quantity of money was transferred from Pakistani government coffers to the Taliban. The Pakistani government has essentially paid a tribute or ransom to end the fighting.
- Foreigners (a euphemism for al-Qaeda and other foreign jihadis) are allowed to remain in the region.
- Over 130 mid-level al-Qaeda commanders and foot soldiers were released from Pakistani custody.
- The Taliban is required to refrain from violence in Pakistan only; the agreement does not stipulate refraining from violence in Afghanistan.

The truce meeting was essentially an event designed to humiliate the Pakistani government and military. Government negotiators were searched for weapons by Taliban fighters prior to entering the meeting. Heavily armed Taliban were posted as guards around the ceremony. The al Rayah al-Qaeda's black flag was hung over the scoreboard at the soccer stadium where the ceremony was held. After the Pakistani delegation left, al-Qaeda's black flag was run up the flagpole of military checkpoints and the Taliban began looting the leftover small arms. The Taliban also held a 'parade' in the streets of Miranshah. They openly view the 'truce' as a victory, and the facts support this view."

Islamic Emirate of Waziristan
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Old 09-06-2006, 02:23 PM
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Anyone who wants a link to the Goyette interview pm me. It's pretty amazing really.
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Old 09-06-2006, 11:54 PM
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Oh man did you hear the interview with the guy from Popular Mechanics in charge of debunking 911 conspiracy theories?

It was on the Charles Goyette show and it was so damn funny even though it was about a real thing and very scary if you think about it.

So Goyette asks how are we sure of the hijackers' identities, and the PM guy says they did DNA tests. Then Goyette asks where they got the DNA with which to match the crime scene DNA. The PM guy then realizes he's caught in a lie and tries to confuse the issue for like 5 minutes, and finally Goyette realizes he's not gonna get an answer cause the guy is totally BSing and doesn't even have his lies straight, so Goyette just hangs up on him and says he's welcome back anytime he can actually answer the question.

5 years to get their lies straight, and they can't even come close. Ugh.

[/ QUOTE ]

Chertoff's Cousin Penned Popular Mechanics 9/11 Hit Piece
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...offscousin.htm


Michael Chertoff is the current United States Secretary of Homeland Security.


ouch..

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Benjamin Chertoff

Ouch.

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Old 09-07-2006, 02:49 PM
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It wasn't chertoff it was the head of fact research on goyette show.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:14 PM
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from the link about 911 debunk chertoff

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Chertoff paints a very different picture from the original story. Some will say he’s lying, of course, but in that case it shouldn’t be too difficult to prove: go to it.

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Given the fact that Popular Mechanics interviewee on Goyette show was caught in a bald faced lie, it is not inconceivable that Ben Chertoff is lying.

Add to this that according to Alex Jones (I have not heard the audio) the mother of Ben Chertoff was called on the phone and according to her the homeland security director is a close relative who has been over to dinner many times.

Bottom line: official 911 story is not the truth, and that they are deliberately lying. Not unexpected of politicians.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:34 PM
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Update

Pakistani military claims to be misquoted in their alleged statement that bin Laden would not be arrested if he behaved as a lawful citizen. OK, fair enough.

Check out this report from a former US soldier and now embedded journalist. His blog is The Fourth Rail, the link is below. An excerpt:

"According to an anonymous intelligence source, the terms of the truce includes:

- The Pakistani Army is abandoning its garrisons in North and South Waziristan.
- The Pakistani Military will not operate in North Waziristan, nor will it monitor actions the region.
- Pakistan will turn over weapons and other equipment seized during Pakistani Army operations.
- The Taliban and al-Qaeda have set up a Mujahideen Shura (or council) to administer the agency.
- The truce refers to the region as The Islamic Emirate of Waziristan.
- An unknown quantity of money was transferred from Pakistani government coffers to the Taliban. The Pakistani government has essentially paid a tribute or ransom to end the fighting.
- Foreigners (a euphemism for al-Qaeda and other foreign jihadis) are allowed to remain in the region.
- Over 130 mid-level al-Qaeda commanders and foot soldiers were released from Pakistani custody.
- The Taliban is required to refrain from violence in Pakistan only; the agreement does not stipulate refraining from violence in Afghanistan.

The truce meeting was essentially an event designed to humiliate the Pakistani government and military. Government negotiators were searched for weapons by Taliban fighters prior to entering the meeting. Heavily armed Taliban were posted as guards around the ceremony. The al Rayah al-Qaeda's black flag was hung over the scoreboard at the soccer stadium where the ceremony was held. After the Pakistani delegation left, al-Qaeda's black flag was run up the flagpole of military checkpoints and the Taliban began looting the leftover small arms. The Taliban also held a 'parade' in the streets of Miranshah. They openly view the 'truce' as a victory, and the facts support this view."

Islamic Emirate of Waziristan

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