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Old 09-04-2006, 06:05 AM
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2nd hand at the table, but we Villain seems loose while waiting for the BB.

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8SB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, CO calls, Button folds.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 11BB


Villain here is 40/6/1

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, SB calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8.5BB

Villain here is 86/3.9/1.

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, Button folds.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9.75BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:04 AM
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1) not sure, CO may be making a play at the pot, so a call down offers 4-1.

2) definite no

3) yeah, but expect to lose assuming your stats are right. If this is over a &gt;100 sample then yes. If not then he may not be the maniac his stats imply. The A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] actually hurts you, not improves you.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:14 AM
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Is the river value bet good on 2?
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:54 AM
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Is the river value bet good on 2?

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yup but the calling of the c/r is a shocker. I posted about my proclivity to call river c/rs and win no more than 5% of the time. A river c/r is a big deal, think about when we do it and what with hands; think about your villain and what they do. You have to be pretty insane or brilliant to c/r bluff a lot of rivers.
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:02 AM
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Yeah it was definately a terrible call. In a bit of a downswing lately. wtsd &lt; 30 and w@SD under 50, and I feel like every turn and river raise are my opponents knowing I am folding a lot. And sometimes, I can't believe that whatever they hit got there, so I call. Cuz I am dumb. And I wanted to see waht he had. ATo in hand 1. Q9o in hand 2. Q2o in hand 3. MHING x 3.
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:05 AM
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PH,

I think you are right. Getting check-raised at the river is a blow to my ego, so I call, expecting to lose... and lose. When passive opponents check-raise me, it's an easy fold, but I absolutely hate when aggressive opponents check-raise me at the river when I have a mediocre hand and the pot is around 5 BBs. I always feel I'm getting played back at, which is why I call so often.
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