First HH post. Not sure I played the turn correctly

mwg47x · #1 09-02-2006, 01:19 PM

Feel free to rip me a new one. Lord knows I have a lot to learn. SB was 43/13/3 over 50 hands FWIW. Real hard to put him on anything, at least for me.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, MP1 folds, Hero raises, SB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Christian_Peters · #2 09-02-2006, 01:29 PM

I think you played this fine. Against I c/r turn when I'm getting 8.5-1, I consider folding to a tight player's c/r, but against 43/13/3 I'm more inclined to call it down.

And I pre-empitively reply to anyone who says you should have value bet the river. No way. There's no way betting the river is correct because it's certainly not for value here and because he has 0% fold equity.
Basically, it's pretty obvious that SB turned a hand. He could have been leading the flop with a FD, which hit on the turn, or he could have been leading the flop with a AT, which nailed 2pair on the turn. And it's obvious that he fears the 4th diamond, but he's taking a c/c line, not a c/f line. With AT, he's scared that the 4th diamond made you a flush. With a small flush, he's scared that the 4th diamond made you a bigger flush.

Just save yourself 1 BB and check this.

Vern · #3 09-02-2006, 01:33 PM

Villain has ATo, no ace.

I play it the same way. nh

Triggerle · #4 09-02-2006, 01:42 PM

At 0.1/0.2 I don't believe he is bluffing the scare card unless I have reads that he is a solid player. There are dumb people who do this with KT or even KJ, KQ, QJ but with an A and flush on the board they are usually too scared. I'd expect to be behind often here. I haven't played 0.1/0.2 for a long time so I don't know if I would call regardless.

Buzz-cp · #5 09-02-2006, 03:36 PM

This is fine by me. He is super tricky here or has 2 pair or better, and got weak on the river. You are probably not folding one of these hands, so it is fine.

Buzz

mwg47x · #6 09-02-2006, 04:45 PM

Thanks for the replies guys. Here are the results for the curious.
Results in white below: 
SB has 5h Tc (two pair, tens and fives).
Hero has Qs Ac (one pair, aces).
Outcome: SB wins 9.50 BB.

freedom18 · #7 09-02-2006, 05:23 PM

fold turn ur losing to 2 pair or made flush

freedom18 · #8 09-02-2006, 05:23 PM

sorry did i mention pot is small [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

MrWookie · #9 09-02-2006, 05:43 PM

Against a guy that laggro, you played this fine. Don't be results oriented.

Smurph64 · #10 09-02-2006, 05:45 PM

*grunch from the cheap seats*

no other way to play that hand, standard result expected losing to flush or two pair....fish probably afraid of over flush so my guess is two pair so you saved yourself a bet.