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Old 09-01-2006, 06:18 AM
TheGunner TheGunner is offline
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Default I hate this spot

What's my plan here? I didn't know what to do.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero ?
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:23 AM
virompl virompl is offline
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Default Re: I hate this spot

I usually call the flop then fold the turn unimproved
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:41 AM
elffaw elffaw is offline
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Default Re: I hate this spot

If a player opens ~39% of his hands on the button he will have a made hand better than bottom pair ~42% of the time on this flop.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:06 AM
Kwaz Kwaz is offline
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Default Re: I hate this spot

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm......call.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:12 AM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: I hate this spot

Check-call flop... check-call turn... check river and then make a decision based on reads if and when villain bets.

This is a very powerful tool, this calldown thing. If you were to play this way every time you had a weak second/third pair hand in a blind steal situation, you'd probably do pretty well over the long haul.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:38 AM
TheGunner TheGunner is offline
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Default Re: I hate this spot

I indeed check/called flop and turn.

He fired another bullet at the river and I was gone.
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Old 09-01-2006, 12:47 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: I hate this spot

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I usually call the flop then fold the turn unimproved

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Whenever youre in a situation where you could have the best hand or you may have up to 9 outs to beat a better hand. Dont fold the turn. Check/call.
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Old 09-01-2006, 01:16 PM
gopnik gopnik is offline
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Default Re: I hate this spot

[ QUOTE ]
What's my plan here? I didn't know what to do.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero ?

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I am c/raising this like 80% of the time, 20% I just call. Folding is out of the question

now that I think about, I am not sure if c/r accomplishes anything on this board. Anyway you look at it, he's either got a piece or a good dran and ain't folding unless he's got a small pp, but in that case, we don't want him to fold.
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