Do you keep drawing here?

Isura · #1 08-31-2006, 01:16 PM

Villain is 55% VPIP, seems loose passive.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($131.60)
Hero ($200)
Button ($533.31)
SB ($247.40)
BB ($50.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, Hero raises to $7, Button calls $7, 2 folds.

Flop: ($17) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $12, Button calls $12.

Turn: ($41) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $31, Button raises to $62, Hero

GivenToFly · #2 08-31-2006, 02:13 PM

given that he's passive i think your drawing dead here enough to make it a fold... is a passive villain raising a weak queen here? even QJ? if u did call what's your plan on the river if an A hits?

Lucky · #3 08-31-2006, 02:25 PM

I guess I call with direct odds. He'll have QJ/KQ twice as much as AQ, and there may even be some QsXs in there.

So I call turn. On river, if i hit with 120 left eff and pot of 160, i'm probably getting broke on river even with an ace.

That said, against loose passive here, I definitely check turn. You have much less f/e than usual, and better chance than usual he checks behind. The general philosophy agaisnt loose passive is to not put as much money in pot on draw on turn, in or oop. Just wait to hit and get paid.

luckychewy · #4 08-31-2006, 02:27 PM

well played, now fold.

spyu · #5 08-31-2006, 02:31 PM

Fold. I would've checked the flop.

Hattifnatt · #6 08-31-2006, 02:32 PM

I check turn.

gaming_mouse · #7 08-31-2006, 03:07 PM

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this is a fold just because of QT?

Jeff W · #8 08-31-2006, 03:17 PM

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this is a fold just because of QT?

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It's not just QT(and 33, TT), it's also Q9, AQ. Maybe even AA since he's awful.

gaming_mouse · #9 08-31-2006, 03:20 PM

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this is a fold just because of QT?

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It's not just QT(and 33, TT), it's also Q9, AQ. Maybe even AA since he's awful.

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Yes. good point.

cts · #10 08-31-2006, 03:40 PM

I play it just as you did but fold the turn. Youre drawing dead too often, won't get paid off often enough, and your outs will frequently boat him up.