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Old 08-30-2006, 05:31 PM
Solanthos Solanthos is offline
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Default 25NL 6m- Proper push on double paired board?

Do I value bet here or just push? I clearly chose to push, but just making sure a smaller bet (PSBish) isn't the better play.

Villain is UTG and had almost two buyins when I sat down. I sat down because I saw a few hands where he minimum bet into a 10+BB pot, once with ace high, so I figured he probably stumbled upon his chips. We got into a pot on the very first hand where he played a flopped TPTK and turned two pair very weakly, I turned a smaller two pair and lost about 20BB to him.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $58.71
UTG+1: $29
CO: $13.40
Hero: $26.25
SB: $5.80
BB: $22.53

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($2.35, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6.35, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($14.35, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $19.25</font>, UTG calls.

Results:
Final pot: $52.85
<font color="#ffffff">UTG shows 6d Jc </font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hero shows Ks Ts </font>
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 6m- Proper push on double paired board?

looks fine to me, zeebo theorem
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:39 PM
Glovey Glovey is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 6m- Proper push on double paired board?

With your reads on him, I'd say you made the right move, I'd probably value bet it agaisnt anyone else though.
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:39 PM
allaboutmyfetti allaboutmyfetti is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 6m- Proper push on double paired board?

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looks fine to me, zeebo theorem

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waht's the zeebo theorem?
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:41 PM
MooBot3000 MooBot3000 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 6m- Proper push on double paired board?

Push is fine. I think K, 6 or &gt; 66 calls you here often enough for this to be the best play.

FYI, if you raise pf to something like 1.50 instead this hand plays out much nicer. You bet $3 on flop, ~$7 on turn, then the pot is &gt; $20 and you have ~$15 left. Your push on the river is much more reasonable.

Just wanted to point out how a small change in your game makes a big difference in this hand.
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:42 PM
Jigsaws Jigsaws is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 6m- Proper push on double paired board?

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waht's the zeebo theorem?

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Nobody folds a full house, ever. So pushing is good here.
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:46 PM
allaboutmyfetti allaboutmyfetti is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 6m- Proper push on double paired board?

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FYI, if you raise pf to something like 1.50 instead this hand plays out much nicer. You bet $3 on flop, ~$7 on turn, then the pot is &gt; $20 and you have ~$15 left. Your push on the river is much more reasonable.

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Raising to 6BB pf with 1 limper with KTs seems excessive
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 6m- Proper push on double paired board?

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FYI, if you raise pf to something like 1.50 instead this hand plays out much nicer. You bet $3 on flop, ~$7 on turn, then the pot is &gt; $20 and you have ~$15 left. Your push on the river is much more reasonable.

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Raising to 6BB pf with 1 limper with KTs seems excessive

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It's not that excessive compared to the standard 4BB plus one per limper, really. I'd been open raising to $1 pretty much the entire time no matter what, so I kept that going. But I do see the point of controlling the pot size to make the all-in look better.
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