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Old 08-29-2006, 09:08 PM
megatron megatron is offline
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Default Exactly The Type Of Situation That I\'m Getting Into Problems With

Seem to find myself in situations like this a lot and I am getting myself into bother with them. No real reads on MP2 but he’s been fairly loose over twenty hands or so. Thoughts at all stages appreciated.

8 Players
UTG ( $10.69 )
UTG+1 ( $2.29 )
MP1( $8.82 )
MP2 ( $15.86 )
CO ( $33.97 )
BUTTON (HERO) ( $19.97 )
SB ( $4.45 )
BB ( $6.68 )

HERO is on the Button with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

PRE FLOP –
SB posts small blind $0.05, BB posts big blind $0.1, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1calls $0.1, MP2 raises $0.26, CO folds, HERO raises $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.65, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.49.

FLOP 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB checks, MP2 bets $1.11, HERO raises $3, BB folds, MP2 calls $1.89.

TURN 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP2 checks
HERO ???
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Old 08-29-2006, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: Exactly The Type Of Situation That I\'m Getting Into Problems With

As played check behind.

Start putting in bigger raises. On that flop I'd just call behind - you are hardly getting a fold from anyone.
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Old 08-29-2006, 10:47 PM
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the flop raise seems low. You didn't include the pot sizes in the history and I'm too lazy to make the math, but the pot is like $4 after his $1 flop bet ... and you raise to $4 ... making him call 2$ in a $7 pot ...

don't flop raised based on the bet amounts ... raise based on the size of the pot ...

Check the turn if he's likely to fold a worst hand than AK to induce a bluff on the river. If you think you can value bet do it as you'll probably be able to value bet the river as well ...
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Old 08-29-2006, 11:21 PM
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Why do people want to check, you have TPTK against a loose player bet the turn and bet the river and expect to see some crappy 1 pair hand.

Just make a 3/4 pot size bet.
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Old 08-29-2006, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: Exactly The Type Of Situation That I\'m Getting Into Problems With

bet turn, fold to CR.
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Old 08-30-2006, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: Exactly The Type Of Situation That I\'m Getting Into Problems With

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Why do people want to check, you have TPTK against a loose player bet the turn and bet the river and expect to see some crappy 1 pair hand.

Just make a 3/4 pot size bet.

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That's what I did. I got raised on the turn, called and got lucky on the river. I had been behind to two pair.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:59 PM
tufat23 tufat23 is offline
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definitely check the turn. it's so bad to bet the turn because you will never know where you are at in a swelled pot.

it is definitely pot control time
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:22 PM
f1shermanjim f1shermanjim is offline
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Default Re: Exactly The Type Of Situation That I\'m Getting Into Problems With

IMO, I bet 1/2 pot on the turn, if cr I probably fold. I do this for value and to get a better feel of where I am at.

If called then I either push the river if I improve to the straight(bet for expectation) or I check/fold(call small bet) the river if I don't improve. I think even with 2pr they will check to me here more often then not so I take the free showdown.
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:25 PM
AceLuby AceLuby is offline
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Default Re: Exactly The Type Of Situation That I\'m Getting Into Problems With

We need to check this turn. It wasn't a scare card, but our TPTK is rarely good w/ that flop texture. I want to get to a showdown as cheap as possible unless a J hits on the river (I'm probably checking behind if a K hits).
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Exactly The Type Of Situation That I\'m Getting Into Problems With

If you are going to check behind on turn, how big a bet are you willing to call on river if a brick comes? How about a King?
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