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Old 08-30-2006, 07:44 AM
Jigsaws Jigsaws is offline
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Default $50NL 6m: folding the second nut flush in a blind battle.. seriously.

Villain's 26/4/2.75 over 30 hands. FWIW, he paused for a little bit before flat calling on the turn. Please don't tell me I'm being result-oriented, is he ever pushing with the J of diamonds?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($1.95)
MP ($46.50)
Button ($29.65)
Hero ($49.25)
BB ($52.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, BB calls $8.

River: ($26) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $39.85</font>, Hero folds???
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Old 08-30-2006, 08:05 AM
Drjamescrow Drjamescrow is offline
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Default Re: $50NL 6m: folding the second nut flush in a blind battle.. seriously.

why did you make such a weak river bet? probably call here, he could easily think youre weak because of that river bet and be trying to push you off the hand with a smaller diamond.
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Old 08-30-2006, 08:40 AM
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Default Re: $50NL 6m: folding the second nut flush in a blind battle.. seriously.

J of diamonds isn't pushing here. I think you would have been better off c/c the river. Your river bet was a little too small, your asking him to steal it from you.
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Old 08-30-2006, 08:51 AM
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Default Re: $50NL 6m: folding the second nut flush in a blind battle.. serious

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J of diamonds isn't pushing here. I think you would have been better off c/c the river. Your river bet was a little too small, your asking him to steal it from you.

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I hate check-call here because it misses out on too much value from Jd/Td.
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Old 08-30-2006, 09:01 AM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: $50NL 6m: folding the second nut flush in a blind battle.. serious

c/c turn

as played, c/c river
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: $50NL 6m: folding the second nut flush in a blind battle.. serious

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c/c turn

as played, c/c river

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Hmm, okay, why?
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: $50NL 6m: folding the second nut flush in a blind battle.. serious

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c/c turn

as played, c/c river

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Hmm, okay, why?

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Worse hands may think you are scared of the flush and bet.
And a lot of worse hands will fold when you bet.
Edit: As played you can be fairly certain villain has a flush too, and it would suck to be raised on the river.
Hence cc as played.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: $50NL 6m: folding the second nut flush in a blind battle.. serious

You have the second nuts flush, but you're not beating the straight flush as well (Wich would make sense in his play)

He probably dont have 63d, but A3d and 67d are plausible.

I would c/c the turn here, cause if he got a monster, he might check back, giving you a cheap river.

By betting here,if he calls, you dont know where you're standing, and you showed that on the river with your weak bet. I prefer to check call the rive rthe way you played, since its gonna be cheaper, but if you are going to bet, Bet more !! (if i would be going to bet, i'd bet around 18-20$
If you get raise, it becomes an easy fold ..
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: $50NL 6m: folding the second nut flush in a blind battle.. serious

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c/c turn

as played, c/c river

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Hmm, okay, why?

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theres veryy little value to be had in this hand, considering we have both the K and Q. We basically have a bluff catcher here and thats it. What hand do you put him on that calls flop, calls turn and is also planning on calling river?
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